Comments on: Rape Culture: We’re Swimming in It

By: DeniseRomano

DeniseRomano — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:32:04 +0000

Please see my blog which is addressing the Seduction and Game Industry and Rape.

eqiwthdenise.wordpress.com

also, for a raging debate with men on this topic: google the blog for Lady Raine.

We can use all the sane input we can get!

Thank you for this important post!

By: Bird

Bird — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:13:52 +0000

Administering a drug to facilitate sexual contact is perpetrator behaviour, plain and simple. Seduction and drugging are definitely NOT the same thing.

The level of alcohol consumption for a person to be incapable of giving consent vastly ranges from person to person. I’d like to know exactly what the difference is in your mind, mark, and also how you think this is justifiable or appropriate behaviour in any way.

By: Antigone

Antigone — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:25:50 +0000

Which is what, precisely?

By: mark

mark — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:41:01 +0000

I might point out that the hypothetical involved “spiking” a punchbowl with alcohol, not administering alcohol to a person to the point where they cannot give effective consent to sexual contact. There is a big difference between the two.

By: violet

violet — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:43:35 +0000

…cell phones, satellites, trains, air travel, motor vehicles, white phosphorous anti-personnel munitions…

Er, okay. Not quite all good.

By: Lisa Kansas

Lisa Kansas — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:44:32 +0000

Oooh, yeah, I can see how it would sound that way the way I told the story here…it wasn’t like that, though–he was very much into us exploring other cultures, etc–what he was really objecting to when he made that one remark, it was clear from all the other stuff he’d said and taught all semesters, was the “other-izing” fantasy that a lot of privileged Eurodescended white folks have about “noble savages.”

By: ann

ann — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:06:19 +0000

I dunno, Lisa. The way your professor taught sounds kind of reductive and other-izing to me.

On one hand, it is important to understand the problems faced by women around the world, but on the other hand, the ways in which those problems are analyzed can lead to the conclusion that “those poor, ignorant savages treat their women so much worse than we enlightened Westerners do.”

I’m not trying to imply that Lisa was espousing culturally imperialist rhetoric. I think I’m just venting my frustration about certain cross-listed women’s studies classes I was stuck in where the professors had that mindset.

I TAed for an Introduction to Women’s Studies course last semester. Most of the students were there to get their “diversity credit” out of the way. Trying to teach feminism to young women who refused to engage with the material was really disheartening. Requiring a token “diversity credit” does very little to promote social justice.

By: Antigone

Antigone — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:16:42 +0000

That’s also why I think the “abortion is UNNATURAL” arguments are a load of hooey too.

By: delagar

delagar — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:12:56 +0000

…antibiotics, dentists, ERs, Vicodin, innoculations, the FDA, Emergency Services, etc…

By: Antigone

Antigone — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:59:58 +0000

I’ve always felt that the “living closer to nature” types were CRAZY. Nature is either a) actively trying to kill you or b) indifferent to your survivial. I’ll take civilization; I like my fridge, microwave, internet connection, and heat/AC.