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	<title>Comments on: Rita MacNeil, Communist menace</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/08/05/rita-macneil-communist-menace/comment-page-1/#comment-72716</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This RCMP &quot;intelligence&quot; work is not a revelation. That they spied on millions of progressive Canadians in the 50&#039;s, 60&#039;s, 70&#039;s much like the Stasi of East Germany has been well known for many years. Trade Unions, Peace Organizations, Student Organizations and yes, Womens&#039; rights organizations were targeted...probably MORE than organized crime, including the corporate criminals who got away.  CSIS now plays a big role in this covert monitoring of millions of progressive Canadians. It is happening as we speak and the Tories just passed legislation giving them even more powers to spy on us all...we have less privacy rights....scary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This RCMP &#8220;intelligence&#8221; work is not a revelation. That they spied on millions of progressive Canadians in the 50&#8242;s, 60&#8242;s, 70&#8242;s much like the Stasi of East Germany has been well known for many years. Trade Unions, Peace Organizations, Student Organizations and yes, Womens&#8217; rights organizations were targeted&#8230;probably MORE than organized crime, including the corporate criminals who got away.  CSIS now plays a big role in this covert monitoring of millions of progressive Canadians. It is happening as we speak and the Tories just passed legislation giving them even more powers to spy on us all&#8230;we have less privacy rights&#8230;.scary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nenya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nenya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not immune to the romanticized view of the Mounties--after all, they are a national symbol and everything. (Mind you, the first thing I heard from real Canadian policemen when I met some on a field trip in gradeschool was that only the cadets and first-year officers actually still wear the iconic red uniforms day-to-day these days.)

But you know where I first heard of abuse by police? That&#039;s right, in British Columbia, by Mounties....

*sighs* Yeah, Canada has its own issues. Maybe occasionally they&#039;re a bit different from our southern neighbours (we hate on First Nations and East Indians more than Black people! so advanced!!), but we&#039;re still screwed up like all the other humans on this planet.

Perhaps I should look up Rita MacNeil on YouTube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not immune to the romanticized view of the Mounties&#8211;after all, they are a national symbol and everything. (Mind you, the first thing I heard from real Canadian policemen when I met some on a field trip in gradeschool was that only the cadets and first-year officers actually still wear the iconic red uniforms day-to-day these days.)</p>
<p>But you know where I first heard of abuse by police? That&#8217;s right, in British Columbia, by Mounties&#8230;.</p>
<p>*sighs* Yeah, Canada has its own issues. Maybe occasionally they&#8217;re a bit different from our southern neighbours (we hate on First Nations and East Indians more than Black people! so advanced!!), but we&#8217;re still screwed up like all the other humans on this planet.</p>
<p>Perhaps I should look up Rita MacNeil on YouTube.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am actually amused by this.  Canada portrays itself to the world as an advanced nation, free of bigotry that plagues other countries...Guess we have dirty laundry eh? It was always there we are just really quite about it so that we can claim denial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually amused by this.  Canada portrays itself to the world as an advanced nation, free of bigotry that plagues other countries&#8230;Guess we have dirty laundry eh? It was always there we are just really quite about it so that we can claim denial.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Beyerstein</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/08/05/rita-macneil-communist-menace/comment-page-1/#comment-72606</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Beyerstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot to admire about the RCMP. This is not it. 

Damn, I&#039;m disappointed in the Mounties today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot to admire about the RCMP. This is not it. </p>
<p>Damn, I&#8217;m disappointed in the Mounties today.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Kansas</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/08/05/rita-macneil-communist-menace/comment-page-1/#comment-72598</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Kansas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lady Lydia likes him too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lady Lydia likes him too.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marcotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Henry Makow link is the best thing I&#039;ve ever read.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Slovenly&quot; &quot;Drab&quot; Unkempt&quot; &quot;Slatternly&quot; &quot;Blowzy&quot; --many adjectives come to mind to describe most women who wear jeans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But usually these women are alone and don&#039;t look happy. Often they look angry and confused. Usually they are talking on a cell phone or listening to their ipod. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really, it&#039;s just awesome.  I&#039;m sorry I ever wore a skirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Henry Makow link is the best thing I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Slovenly&#8221; &#8220;Drab&#8221; Unkempt&#8221; &#8220;Slatternly&#8221; &#8220;Blowzy&#8221; &#8211;many adjectives come to mind to describe most women who wear jeans.</p></blockquote>
<p>and:</p>
<blockquote><p>But usually these women are alone and don&#8217;t look happy. Often they look angry and confused. Usually they are talking on a cell phone or listening to their ipod. </p></blockquote>
<p>Really, it&#8217;s just awesome.  I&#8217;m sorry I ever wore a skirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zingerella</title>
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		<dc:creator>zingerella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not surprise me in the least the Rita MacNeil would be on a watch list. She grew up into a downhome music success, sure, but she wrote at least one amazing working-class anthem. She&#039;s also been out there, fat and unapologetic, doing her thing, singing songs that pull on people&#039;s hearts and speak to their experiences, and just plain glowing when she performs, forever. 

In fact, she was being unashamed of her person or experiences in country music long before k.d. lang made it cool, but for some reason, Rita MacNeil&#039;s name never comes up when we think of radical women musicians. It&#039;s not just a generational thing—the same people who don&#039;t know from Rita MacNeil have heard of, say, Johnny Cash, and are familiar with his political songs. 

Kind of makes me think of Gerda Lerner&#039;s comments in &lt;i&gt;The Creation of Feminist Consciousness&lt;/i&gt;, about how women&#039;s knowledge has historically been lost to subsequent generations,* so that women thinkers wound up unable to metaphorically stand on the shoulders of giants who had gone before, but instead had always to reason their feminist thoughts from first principles.  k.d. lang, who is admittedly awesome, was hailed as this amazing, unashamed musician for doing her thing, and Rita MacNeil is relegated to vague memories of a CBC television special. 


* Because women lacked access to education and therefore the means to record their knowledge and thoughts, because those few women who have been able to write  haven&#039;t addressed topics that the predominantly male custodians of knowledge deemed important enough to preserve, because women were kept isolated from each other and out of colleges and libraries so that they were unable to discover what other women were thinking and writing, and because women&#039;s role, as defined by men, didn&#039;t allow them a lot of leisure for thinking)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not surprise me in the least the Rita MacNeil would be on a watch list. She grew up into a downhome music success, sure, but she wrote at least one amazing working-class anthem. She&#8217;s also been out there, fat and unapologetic, doing her thing, singing songs that pull on people&#8217;s hearts and speak to their experiences, and just plain glowing when she performs, forever. </p>
<p>In fact, she was being unashamed of her person or experiences in country music long before k.d. lang made it cool, but for some reason, Rita MacNeil&#8217;s name never comes up when we think of radical women musicians. It&#8217;s not just a generational thing—the same people who don&#8217;t know from Rita MacNeil have heard of, say, Johnny Cash, and are familiar with his political songs. </p>
<p>Kind of makes me think of Gerda Lerner&#8217;s comments in <i>The Creation of Feminist Consciousness</i>, about how women&#8217;s knowledge has historically been lost to subsequent generations,* so that women thinkers wound up unable to metaphorically stand on the shoulders of giants who had gone before, but instead had always to reason their feminist thoughts from first principles.  k.d. lang, who is admittedly awesome, was hailed as this amazing, unashamed musician for doing her thing, and Rita MacNeil is relegated to vague memories of a CBC television special. </p>
<p>* Because women lacked access to education and therefore the means to record their knowledge and thoughts, because those few women who have been able to write  haven&#8217;t addressed topics that the predominantly male custodians of knowledge deemed important enough to preserve, because women were kept isolated from each other and out of colleges and libraries so that they were unable to discover what other women were thinking and writing, and because women&#8217;s role, as defined by men, didn&#8217;t allow them a lot of leisure for thinking)</p>
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