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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Not Allowed There</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: junk science</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69893</link>
		<dc:creator>junk science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how you feel. I hate when someone makes an aggressively dumb comment and I'm momentarily too boggled by the stupidity to think of an answer until it's too late and the conversation has already moved on. Thank god for blogs and extended response-time windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how you feel. I hate when someone makes an aggressively dumb comment and I&#8217;m momentarily too boggled by the stupidity to think of an answer until it&#8217;s too late and the conversation has already moved on. Thank god for blogs and extended response-time windows.</p>
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		<title>By: that one guy from the one place</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69830</link>
		<dc:creator>that one guy from the one place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.  I thought it was an allusion to moses.

Money and children: donated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.  I thought it was an allusion to moses.</p>
<p>Money and children: donated.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69823</link>
		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Shrub=the smaller of the two Georges Bush.

Antigone - no, no, it doesn't, but the trolls keep throwing it at me in spite of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shrub=the smaller of the two Georges Bush.</p>
<p>Antigone - no, no, it doesn&#8217;t, but the trolls keep throwing it at me in spite of that.</p>
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		<title>By: that one guy from the one place</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69822</link>
		<dc:creator>that one guy from the one place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this "Glorious Shrub" and how may I go about donating them all of my money and any future children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this &#8220;Glorious Shrub&#8221; and how may I go about donating them all of my money and any future children?</p>
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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69816</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That...doesn't make the least bit of sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8230;doesn&#8217;t make the least bit of sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69815</link>
		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CiF = &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree" rel="nofollow"&gt;CommentIsFree&lt;/a&gt;, the Grauniad's blog community section.  Many good posts, many trainwreck threads.

And I think it's that perception that the 'Shame on you!' comments arise from; &lt;i&gt;surely&lt;/i&gt; I came all this way to get here because I recognise America as being &lt;i&gt;flawless&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;wonderful&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;inherently, effortlessly superior&lt;/i&gt;?  I mean, if people who were just born here have their quibbles, there's no help for that, but if someone made &lt;i&gt;all that effort&lt;/i&gt; but is not &lt;i&gt;grateful&lt;/i&gt; to the &lt;i&gt;Glorious Shrub&lt;/i&gt;, without whose grace they would not even &lt;i&gt;be here&lt;/i&gt;, what's &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt; with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CiF = <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree" rel="nofollow">CommentIsFree</a>, the Grauniad&#8217;s blog community section.  Many good posts, many trainwreck threads.</p>
<p>And I think it&#8217;s that perception that the &#8216;Shame on you!&#8217; comments arise from; <i>surely</i> I came all this way to get here because I recognise America as being <i>flawless</i> and <i>wonderful</i> and <i>inherently, effortlessly superior</i>?  I mean, if people who were just born here have their quibbles, there&#8217;s no help for that, but if someone made <i>all that effort</i> but is not <i>grateful</i> to the <i>Glorious Shrub</i>, without whose grace they would not even <i>be here</i>, what&#8217;s <i>wrong</i> with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69814</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm afraid I'm not familiar with CiF.

Oh, and I always figured immigrants were "more" of an American, because they went and actually had to do something in order to be an American.  I always figured for the rest of us the bumper sticker "Fortunate to be an American" was more appropriate than "Proud".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m not familiar with CiF.</p>
<p>Oh, and I always figured immigrants were &#8220;more&#8221; of an American, because they went and actually had to do something in order to be an American.  I always figured for the rest of us the bumper sticker &#8220;Fortunate to be an American&#8221; was more appropriate than &#8220;Proud&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69809</link>
		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how he's assuming that the misogynist blogosphere is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; an 'echo chamber'.

(I have the same problem, which is why I rarely read CiF these days.  Well, and CiF is full of right-wing trolls - last time I left a comment there, it was about electoral fraud in the USA, and I mentioned I was an emigree.  The next comment said 'Shame on you for not being pathetically grateful to be living in the Land of the Free!' in more or less as many words.  Gah).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how he&#8217;s assuming that the misogynist blogosphere is <i>not</i> an &#8216;echo chamber&#8217;.</p>
<p>(I have the same problem, which is why I rarely read CiF these days.  Well, and CiF is full of right-wing trolls - last time I left a comment there, it was about electoral fraud in the USA, and I mentioned I was an emigree.  The next comment said &#8216;Shame on you for not being pathetically grateful to be living in the Land of the Free!&#8217; in more or less as many words.  Gah).</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa KS</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69797</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can imagine.  Ugh.</description>
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		<title>By: MissPrism</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/06/27/im-not-allowed-there/#comment-69795</link>
		<dc:creator>MissPrism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree. 
(If you wanted an echo chamber, it would be &lt;i&gt;posts&lt;/i&gt; at non-feminist blogs you'd have trouble reading, not comment threads.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree.<br />
(If you wanted an echo chamber, it would be <i>posts</i> at non-feminist blogs you&#8217;d have trouble reading, not comment threads.)</p>
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