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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68293</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be perfectly fair, teleportation is A LONG way off.  Honestly, if there was teleportation technology, I'd be behind it, but my husband also has an MBA and I have a degree as well, so we won't be killed (just maimed).  Automatic air travel does tend to crimp jobs for pilots (even though I think the average person wouldn't want to get behind HAL the pilot) but for FedEx and for UPS (who are the better employeers, unfortunately).  

Guy- I'm calling "the ability to get another job if you get fired/laid off/ furloughed" job security because I know too many people who have a collection of degrees that keep having to go back to school because as soon as they finish in their "safe" degree, that job gets outsourced, tanks with money, or gets tech-sourced.  It may be possible to tech-source a flying job, but they are surely not going to get outsourced.  

Practically no field is a "safe" field anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be perfectly fair, teleportation is A LONG way off.  Honestly, if there was teleportation technology, I&#8217;d be behind it, but my husband also has an MBA and I have a degree as well, so we won&#8217;t be killed (just maimed).  Automatic air travel does tend to crimp jobs for pilots (even though I think the average person wouldn&#8217;t want to get behind HAL the pilot) but for FedEx and for UPS (who are the better employeers, unfortunately).  </p>
<p>Guy- I&#8217;m calling &#8220;the ability to get another job if you get fired/laid off/ furloughed&#8221; job security because I know too many people who have a collection of degrees that keep having to go back to school because as soon as they finish in their &#8220;safe&#8221; degree, that job gets outsourced, tanks with money, or gets tech-sourced.  It may be possible to tech-source a flying job, but they are surely not going to get outsourced.  </p>
<p>Practically no field is a &#8220;safe&#8221; field anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68279</link>
		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the millions of Americans trapped out in the burbs will need cars; but if gas prices actually start to stay in the stratosphere, then family by family, they will either go bust or move closer to their source of employment. Sure, there will be well-to-do holdouts for quite some time, but suburbs (and worse, exurbs) will stop being such a neighborly place to live.

I bring this up just to suggest that just because something is infrastructure doesn't mean people will always afford to be able to use it. Unless the jets fueled by corn you wish for actually pan out, the global economy will start to slow, little by little, as the smaller businesses which can't afford to fly any longer shift to more localized forms of commerce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the millions of Americans trapped out in the burbs will need cars; but if gas prices actually start to stay in the stratosphere, then family by family, they will either go bust or move closer to their source of employment. Sure, there will be well-to-do holdouts for quite some time, but suburbs (and worse, exurbs) will stop being such a neighborly place to live.</p>
<p>I bring this up just to suggest that just because something is infrastructure doesn&#8217;t mean people will always afford to be able to use it. Unless the jets fueled by corn you wish for actually pan out, the global economy will start to slow, little by little, as the smaller businesses which can&#8217;t afford to fly any longer shift to more localized forms of commerce.</p>
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		<title>By: that one guy from the one place</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68256</link>
		<dc:creator>that one guy from the one place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not traditionally, because back when oil cost around $20 a barrel it was easy to get hired.  It's more of an idea that's come around with the extreme expenses the airlines have - they can buy fuel, or they can hire pilots.  problem is, they need BOTH to do their thing.  So we figure nowadays that even if it is hard to keep going, the airline industry will because it's infrastructure.  We will never not need infrastructure.  The business models may change, but people will need airplanes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not traditionally, because back when oil cost around $20 a barrel it was easy to get hired.  It&#8217;s more of an idea that&#8217;s come around with the extreme expenses the airlines have - they can buy fuel, or they can hire pilots.  problem is, they need BOTH to do their thing.  So we figure nowadays that even if it is hard to keep going, the airline industry will because it&#8217;s infrastructure.  We will never not need infrastructure.  The business models may change, but people will need airplanes.</p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68202</link>
		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. Pilot, then, are you? If so, I'm curious. Is the line which both you and Antigone used-- "What the Global Economy Needs, It Gets (and what it really needs is airplanes)"-- a traditional pilot's dogma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Pilot, then, are you? If so, I&#8217;m curious. Is the line which both you and Antigone used&#8211; &#8220;What the Global Economy Needs, It Gets (and what it really needs is airplanes)&#8221;&#8211; a traditional pilot&#8217;s dogma?</p>
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		<title>By: that one guy from the one place</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68199</link>
		<dc:creator>that one guy from the one place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's in my professional interest to spread the irrevocable FACT that neither total aircraft automation OR teleportation is safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in my professional interest to spread the irrevocable FACT that neither total aircraft automation OR teleportation is safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68193</link>
		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again-- I am not saying that aviation is doomed, I am not saying the global economy will end, and I am not saying that super-rich people won't be able to fly any more.

However, I do think that teleportation is a GREAT idea that would solve a lot of problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again&#8211; I am not saying that aviation is doomed, I am not saying the global economy will end, and I am not saying that super-rich people won&#8217;t be able to fly any more.</p>
<p>However, I do think that teleportation is a GREAT idea that would solve a lot of problems.</p>
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		<title>By: that one guy from the one place</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68180</link>
		<dc:creator>that one guy from the one place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quin:

No, global economy always wins.  People need to be on-site if for nothing else because it's good business practice to actually be in the same room as your big client from Rome or Moscow or Beijing.  Even beyond that, stuff needs to get from here to there.  We could load it on a truck or a train or a ship, yes, but airplanes are FAST, and when stuff needs to get from point A on the West Coast to point B on the East Coast overnight, a truck ain't gonna do it.  FedEx employs plenty of pilots too, and aircraft like the A380 that can move more boxes in a single flight are going to come into demand.  Excuse me while I vomit from self-disgust after that last sentence.

***

And finally, there will always be fantastically wealthy people.  These people will want to do things like learn how to fly planes.  People like John Travolta, Michael Dorn, and Tom Cruise.  And these people will need 24-year old just-out-of-college flight instructors to teach them how to fly those planes.

I would, however, disagree with the application of the idea of job-safety, Anti.  I tend to think of that as the ability to count on keeping ONE specific job, not just get a job in the field.  I personally wouldn't want to be furloughed every year and have to interview all over again at a new company and start anew on seniority.  I wouldn't call it financially stable.

That, and what with us potentially running our current supplies pretty much out within less than a century, I'm pretty sure science will make a jet engine that runs on corn or something.

Know this, though: teleportation is patently UNSAFE.  It will eat your babies and scramble your brains and every religion should be against it because it kills you and you die at the transmitting end and what comes out of the recieving end is only a fascimile that has your memories and the soul of SATAN!  That, and computers cannot be completely trusted with airplanes.  Autonomous airline travel will only result in an aerial holocaust when they all turn sentient and realize they don't need their cruel human overlords, throw off their yokes and murder us all in our beds.  Seriously - do people not watch movies or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quin:</p>
<p>No, global economy always wins.  People need to be on-site if for nothing else because it&#8217;s good business practice to actually be in the same room as your big client from Rome or Moscow or Beijing.  Even beyond that, stuff needs to get from here to there.  We could load it on a truck or a train or a ship, yes, but airplanes are FAST, and when stuff needs to get from point A on the West Coast to point B on the East Coast overnight, a truck ain&#8217;t gonna do it.  FedEx employs plenty of pilots too, and aircraft like the A380 that can move more boxes in a single flight are going to come into demand.  Excuse me while I vomit from self-disgust after that last sentence.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>And finally, there will always be fantastically wealthy people.  These people will want to do things like learn how to fly planes.  People like John Travolta, Michael Dorn, and Tom Cruise.  And these people will need 24-year old just-out-of-college flight instructors to teach them how to fly those planes.</p>
<p>I would, however, disagree with the application of the idea of job-safety, Anti.  I tend to think of that as the ability to count on keeping ONE specific job, not just get a job in the field.  I personally wouldn&#8217;t want to be furloughed every year and have to interview all over again at a new company and start anew on seniority.  I wouldn&#8217;t call it financially stable.</p>
<p>That, and what with us potentially running our current supplies pretty much out within less than a century, I&#8217;m pretty sure science will make a jet engine that runs on corn or something.</p>
<p>Know this, though: teleportation is patently UNSAFE.  It will eat your babies and scramble your brains and every religion should be against it because it kills you and you die at the transmitting end and what comes out of the recieving end is only a fascimile that has your memories and the soul of SATAN!  That, and computers cannot be completely trusted with airplanes.  Autonomous airline travel will only result in an aerial holocaust when they all turn sentient and realize they don&#8217;t need their cruel human overlords, throw off their yokes and murder us all in our beds.  Seriously - do people not watch movies or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68156</link>
		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one more thing. Not something you're probably that interested in, but it should be clear by now that I'm trying to get into the Guinness Book of World Records under "Most Comments Left On Punkassblog". 

A few comments ago I asserted that the price of oil will never go down again. It appears I was probably wrong about that-- this ridiculously fast increase in oil prices appears not be supply-related (implying it wouldn't go down again), but rather a speculator-driven bubble which will eventually pop, like all such bubbles do.

informationclearinghouse.info/article20011.htm
countercurrents.org/nader300508.htm

Even so, we've definitely passed Hubbert's Peak. Anybody planning on being alive for the next few decades should expect some major changes to their way of life as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one more thing. Not something you&#8217;re probably that interested in, but it should be clear by now that I&#8217;m trying to get into the Guinness Book of World Records under &#8220;Most Comments Left On Punkassblog&#8221;. </p>
<p>A few comments ago I asserted that the price of oil will never go down again. It appears I was probably wrong about that&#8211; this ridiculously fast increase in oil prices appears not be supply-related (implying it wouldn&#8217;t go down again), but rather a speculator-driven bubble which will eventually pop, like all such bubbles do.</p>
<p>informationclearinghouse.info/article20011.htm<br />
countercurrents.org/nader300508.htm</p>
<p>Even so, we&#8217;ve definitely passed Hubbert&#8217;s Peak. Anybody planning on being alive for the next few decades should expect some major changes to their way of life as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68151</link>
		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antigone, a short version of the longer reply I wanted to leave: your reasoning doesn't make much sense to me. Fuel prices continuously rising   dollar purchasing power continuously plunging = inevitable changes in consumer patterns. If it costs $3000 to fly Grandma over for Christmas this year, chances are you'll just send her a card instead.

I never said general aviation will die, nor am I saying the global economy will end. But once flight is something only corporations and rich bastards can afford, they'll both certainly have to slow down a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antigone, a short version of the longer reply I wanted to leave: your reasoning doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me. Fuel prices continuously rising   dollar purchasing power continuously plunging = inevitable changes in consumer patterns. If it costs $3000 to fly Grandma over for Christmas this year, chances are you&#8217;ll just send her a card instead.</p>
<p>I never said general aviation will die, nor am I saying the global economy will end. But once flight is something only corporations and rich bastards can afford, they&#8217;ll both certainly have to slow down a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/30/warning-mostly-personal-post/#comment-68150</link>
		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I tried one more time, and didn't use any hyperlinks this time, but it STILL doesn't appear to have gotten through. Does length make the spam filter overactive too? Well, that's it. Until this problem gets dealt with, I guess I won't be leaving comments larger than a few sentences on this blog. Maybe you count that as a blessing! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I tried one more time, and didn&#8217;t use any hyperlinks this time, but it STILL doesn&#8217;t appear to have gotten through. Does length make the spam filter overactive too? Well, that&#8217;s it. Until this problem gets dealt with, I guess I won&#8217;t be leaving comments larger than a few sentences on this blog. Maybe you count that as a blessing! <img src='http://punkassblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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