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		<title>By: vv</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/22/for-women-bisexuality-may-not-be-just-a-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-68689</link>
		<dc:creator>vv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smoss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bisexual invisibility, I feel, is probably the basis of most of the bi-phobia from both homosexuals and heterosexuals.  My experience has been that the lesbian/gay community feels that because bisexuals can be with women and/or men, they are keeping &#039;heterosexual privilege,&#039; being able to appear straight whenever they want to keep social pressures and judgments at bay.  I guess they don&#039;t realize that some bisexuals actually consider this their identity and don&#039;t like being &#039;lost in the woodwork,&#039; like you said.  Now when I&#039;m meeting someone new I ask if they are seeing SOMEONE...not if they have a boyfriend or girlfriend.  I know that I want people to see me for who I am and not automatically assume that if I am with a man I am straight, or if I am with a woman I am a lesbian.

In a few years everyone will be bisexual anyway, what with Tila Tequila leading the way? lol Jeeze, everyone should have turned yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bisexual invisibility, I feel, is probably the basis of most of the bi-phobia from both homosexuals and heterosexuals.  My experience has been that the lesbian/gay community feels that because bisexuals can be with women and/or men, they are keeping &#8216;heterosexual privilege,&#8217; being able to appear straight whenever they want to keep social pressures and judgments at bay.  I guess they don&#8217;t realize that some bisexuals actually consider this their identity and don&#8217;t like being &#8216;lost in the woodwork,&#8217; like you said.  Now when I&#8217;m meeting someone new I ask if they are seeing SOMEONE&#8230;not if they have a boyfriend or girlfriend.  I know that I want people to see me for who I am and not automatically assume that if I am with a man I am straight, or if I am with a woman I am a lesbian.</p>
<p>In a few years everyone will be bisexual anyway, what with Tila Tequila leading the way? lol Jeeze, everyone should have turned yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/22/for-women-bisexuality-may-not-be-just-a-phase/comment-page-1/#comment-67604</link>
		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH, anti-bi things I&#039;ve encountered in L&amp;G spaces include:

-at a local gay bar last night, being told - jokingly - &#039;Naw, you&#039;re a lesbian&#039; when I&#039;d just said otherwise.
-entirely, 100% gay people insisting that bisexuality is &#039;sitting in traffic&#039; and that it goes away if you get into...assumptions vary, some say any long-term relationship, some just say any opposite-gender relationship.
-a reluctance to add anti-biphobia clauses to anti-homophobia/transphobia pledges. This is probably just a case of people overlooking a problem because they want to pretend it&#039;s not there.  A gay friend of mine tried to deal with this while he was in the NUS LGBT conference system, and it was an uphill struggle.
-among lesbians, hearing the stereotype that all bi women are just straight girls on a rebound and if you date one she&#039;ll just leave you for a man once she&#039;s got over it.  I don&#039;t know if bi men get hit by this one.
-among both gays and lesbians, insistence that a relationship between a gay person and a bi person is doomed to fail for no reason beyond the bi person&#039;s sexuality.

It&#039;s not like this is a day-in-day-out problem so much as something you bang your head against every so often, but it&#039;s there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MH, anti-bi things I&#8217;ve encountered in L&amp;G spaces include:</p>
<p>-at a local gay bar last night, being told &#8211; jokingly &#8211; &#8216;Naw, you&#8217;re a lesbian&#8217; when I&#8217;d just said otherwise.<br />
-entirely, 100% gay people insisting that bisexuality is &#8216;sitting in traffic&#8217; and that it goes away if you get into&#8230;assumptions vary, some say any long-term relationship, some just say any opposite-gender relationship.<br />
-a reluctance to add anti-biphobia clauses to anti-homophobia/transphobia pledges. This is probably just a case of people overlooking a problem because they want to pretend it&#8217;s not there.  A gay friend of mine tried to deal with this while he was in the NUS LGBT conference system, and it was an uphill struggle.<br />
-among lesbians, hearing the stereotype that all bi women are just straight girls on a rebound and if you date one she&#8217;ll just leave you for a man once she&#8217;s got over it.  I don&#8217;t know if bi men get hit by this one.<br />
-among both gays and lesbians, insistence that a relationship between a gay person and a bi person is doomed to fail for no reason beyond the bi person&#8217;s sexuality.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like this is a day-in-day-out problem so much as something you bang your head against every so often, but it&#8217;s there.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa KS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like math...I agree that a line is a way oversimplification, but unfortunately there are so many dimensions to sex and not so many corresponding multidimensional closed spaces, especially ones I am familiar enough with to use descriptively, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like math&#8230;I agree that a line is a way oversimplification, but unfortunately there are so many dimensions to sex and not so many corresponding multidimensional closed spaces, especially ones I am familiar enough with to use descriptively, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highly disagree with the idea that sexuality exists on a sliding scale...

...I think it&#039;s way more complex than that. For one thing, it&#039;s not zero-sum, as a sliding scale with outliers would imply; increasing attraction to one gender doesn&#039;t mean decreasing attraction to the other. Some people are attracted to different genders in different ways; I may want to do different bedroom things with different genders; etc. etc. etc.

Seuxality isn&#039;t a point on a scale, it&#039;s a function over a space with dozens and dozens of dimensions. And the function might be piecewise, further complicating things!

Sorry if I mathgeeked-out a bit there. But yeah, &quot;attraction&quot; isn&#039;t even quantifiable except in the vaguest of terms.

I&#039;ve heard tell of the prejudice found in some queer circles against bisexuals, and it really baffles me. I have no idea how or why that happens; it&#039;s totally contrary to what I expected. But as I haven&#039;t experienced any of that myself, I defer to others&#039; experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly disagree with the idea that sexuality exists on a sliding scale&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;I think it&#8217;s way more complex than that. For one thing, it&#8217;s not zero-sum, as a sliding scale with outliers would imply; increasing attraction to one gender doesn&#8217;t mean decreasing attraction to the other. Some people are attracted to different genders in different ways; I may want to do different bedroom things with different genders; etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>Seuxality isn&#8217;t a point on a scale, it&#8217;s a function over a space with dozens and dozens of dimensions. And the function might be piecewise, further complicating things!</p>
<p>Sorry if I mathgeeked-out a bit there. But yeah, &#8220;attraction&#8221; isn&#8217;t even quantifiable except in the vaguest of terms.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard tell of the prejudice found in some queer circles against bisexuals, and it really baffles me. I have no idea how or why that happens; it&#8217;s totally contrary to what I expected. But as I haven&#8217;t experienced any of that myself, I defer to others&#8217; experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Kiensey report that most people fall along the bisexuality scale, with just the outlyers at completely homo or hetero?  It always seemed to make sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Kiensey report that most people fall along the bisexuality scale, with just the outlyers at completely homo or hetero?  It always seemed to make sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;*I haven’t ever personally known a man who openly admitted to being bisexual. However, I observed enough group porn-viewing behavior during my Army days and surprised a few confessions out of a drunk specimen or four that I am relatively sure that innately, men span the same sort of spectrum as women.&lt;/i&gt;

Or, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/on-being-straight/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as Bitchy Jones said&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;i&gt;&quot;...women are ‘more fluid’[?] That’s not even true. If there is a sex who is notorious for getting into same sex action when in prison or the army or some such it’s men.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

(I have known a few bisexual-IDing men, tho&#039;.  The supposed breakdown among young people (16-24) in the UK is: men; 6% gay, 3% bi, 4% up for experiments; and women 2% gay, 5% bi and 11% up for experiments...which says a lot about our culture, really).

&lt;i&gt;The finding runs counter to the idea that bisexuality is an experimental or transitional period for women who, for instance, are uncertain or have fear of commitment.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow.  They thought that?  Fear of whatnow?  Who came up with that one?  And why didn&#039;t they tell let me know?  Or did they come up with it by - letmeguess - not actually studying bisexual people at all, much less asking us how we felt about it over the long run?

To be fair, I&#039;m guessing that bisexuals are far harder to study as a group than either straight or gay people simply because we disappear into the woodwork more readily.  LGBT social sets aren&#039;t immune to biphobia.  All the other bisexuals I know are just people I&#039;ve chanced to meet &amp; befriend along the way, rather than in LGBT spaces - we&#039;ve all, including those in long-term same-sex relationships, either shifted out of those spaces or never been welcomed into them in the first place.  Meanwhile, the straight world would like to assume that we&#039;re as straight as they are, ie, not really there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>*I haven’t ever personally known a man who openly admitted to being bisexual. However, I observed enough group porn-viewing behavior during my Army days and surprised a few confessions out of a drunk specimen or four that I am relatively sure that innately, men span the same sort of spectrum as women.</i></p>
<p>Or, <a href="http://bitchyjones.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/on-being-straight/" rel="nofollow">as Bitchy Jones said</a>, <i>&#8220;&#8230;women are ‘more fluid’[?] That’s not even true. If there is a sex who is notorious for getting into same sex action when in prison or the army or some such it’s men.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>(I have known a few bisexual-IDing men, tho&#8217;.  The supposed breakdown among young people (16-24) in the UK is: men; 6% gay, 3% bi, 4% up for experiments; and women 2% gay, 5% bi and 11% up for experiments&#8230;which says a lot about our culture, really).</p>
<p><i>The finding runs counter to the idea that bisexuality is an experimental or transitional period for women who, for instance, are uncertain or have fear of commitment.</i></p>
<p>Wow.  They thought that?  Fear of whatnow?  Who came up with that one?  And why didn&#8217;t they tell let me know?  Or did they come up with it by &#8211; letmeguess &#8211; not actually studying bisexual people at all, much less asking us how we felt about it over the long run?</p>
<p>To be fair, I&#8217;m guessing that bisexuals are far harder to study as a group than either straight or gay people simply because we disappear into the woodwork more readily.  LGBT social sets aren&#8217;t immune to biphobia.  All the other bisexuals I know are just people I&#8217;ve chanced to meet &amp; befriend along the way, rather than in LGBT spaces &#8211; we&#8217;ve all, including those in long-term same-sex relationships, either shifted out of those spaces or never been welcomed into them in the first place.  Meanwhile, the straight world would like to assume that we&#8217;re as straight as they are, ie, not really there.</p>
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