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	<title>Comments on: If this is what counts as an &#8220;educational organization&#8221; in abstinence land, then hell yeah we need to stop giving them money. They&#8217;re just not that bright.</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/08/if-this-is-what-counts-as-an-educational-organization-in-abstinence-land-then-hell-yeah-we-need-to-stop-giving-them-money-theyre-just-not-that-bright/#comment-66867</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed.  They've been light on the posts too, except for HotMamma's pearls of wisdom.

I looked up ULTRA teen choice, too.  Seems like they got booted from DC schools because of some non-discrimination program requirement, i.e. they are not down with the whole concept of gay, and DC schools want to require that they not be jerks about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed.  They&#8217;ve been light on the posts too, except for HotMamma&#8217;s pearls of wisdom.</p>
<p>I looked up ULTRA teen choice, too.  Seems like they got booted from DC schools because of some non-discrimination program requirement, i.e. they are not down with the whole concept of gay, and DC schools want to require that they not be jerks about it.</p>
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		<title>By: gnaddrig</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnaddrig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, they closed the comments for all their posts and deleted all critical comments, leaving only comments they liked (e. g. yoshi3329's comment on &lt;a href="http://abstinence.net/blognew/2008/05/05/another-reason-for-abstinence/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Another Reason for Abstinence&lt;/a&gt;). There is no hint about this little cleansing action on the blog, and they didn't notify the people whose comments they deleted (they could have because one had to register to be allowed to comment, and the e-mail was verified on registration).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, they closed the comments for all their posts and deleted all critical comments, leaving only comments they liked (e. g. yoshi3329&#8217;s comment on <a href="http://abstinence.net/blognew/2008/05/05/another-reason-for-abstinence/" rel="nofollow">Another Reason for Abstinence</a>). There is no hint about this little cleansing action on the blog, and they didn&#8217;t notify the people whose comments they deleted (they could have because one had to register to be allowed to comment, and the e-mail was verified on registration).</p>
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		<title>By: gnaddrig</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/08/if-this-is-what-counts-as-an-educational-organization-in-abstinence-land-then-hell-yeah-we-need-to-stop-giving-them-money-theyre-just-not-that-bright/#comment-66755</link>
		<dc:creator>gnaddrig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will that be when lynch mobs replace today's courts? And the drunk next door will use his DIY surgeon's kit to stitch up the survivors.
Shudder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will that be when lynch mobs replace today&#8217;s courts? And the drunk next door will use his DIY surgeon&#8217;s kit to stitch up the survivors.<br />
Shudder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 16:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to a world full of amateur forensic specialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to a world full of amateur forensic specialists.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marcotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They think there's an OTC paternity test?!  Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  You pee on a stick, and it says "Bob Smith," since your name is inscribed on your DNA by baby Jesus himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They think there&#8217;s an OTC paternity test?!  Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  You pee on a stick, and it says &#8220;Bob Smith,&#8221; since your name is inscribed on your DNA by baby Jesus himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/08/if-this-is-what-counts-as-an-educational-organization-in-abstinence-land-then-hell-yeah-we-need-to-stop-giving-them-money-theyre-just-not-that-bright/#comment-66669</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I agree that it's a bad idea to have naked images of yourself floating around the internet.  However, this isn't Annie's Musings at Blogspot; this is a site that claims it will be a clearinghouse for abstinence education materials and resources.  You can't start with the non-sequitor of "So kids these days and they're naked photos" without showing that this is actually a problem.  Did she read an article about a girl who got in trouble when her boyfriend blackmailed her?  Is this something that happened to a friend of a friend?  What the hell is the context.  For that matter, who are Annie and Hotmamma247 and Kayla, and why are they qualified to be the self-appointed official bloggers of abstinence?

I'm flat out underwhelmed by these guys and their blog, and not pleased by the arguing in bad faith that shows up in the posts that are more than fleeting thoughts.  Annie does not get the benefit of the doubt.  None of them do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I agree that it&#8217;s a bad idea to have naked images of yourself floating around the internet.  However, this isn&#8217;t Annie&#8217;s Musings at Blogspot; this is a site that claims it will be a clearinghouse for abstinence education materials and resources.  You can&#8217;t start with the non-sequitor of &#8220;So kids these days and they&#8217;re naked photos&#8221; without showing that this is actually a problem.  Did she read an article about a girl who got in trouble when her boyfriend blackmailed her?  Is this something that happened to a friend of a friend?  What the hell is the context.  For that matter, who are Annie and Hotmamma247 and Kayla, and why are they qualified to be the self-appointed official bloggers of abstinence?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m flat out underwhelmed by these guys and their blog, and not pleased by the arguing in bad faith that shows up in the posts that are more than fleeting thoughts.  Annie does not get the benefit of the doubt.  None of them do.</p>
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		<title>By: gnaddrig</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnaddrig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What nefarious reasons could a stranger have for looking at an anonymous picture of your nude body?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, they would probably use it as jack off material, and I guess many people wouldn't like that for various reasons. Maybe this isn't such a terrible thing. But, as Anna wrote in her post, those pictures could be used to blackmail, expose, or humiliate a person. Imagine your co-workers have seen a few nude pictures of yourself. A lot of very unpleasant things could result. I would certainly not want any ex girlfriend to publish any pictures of me, risqué or not, on the internet (and as a man, I don't have half as much to be afraid of as any woman in the same situation). 

I really don't see what is wrong with Anna's post (no idea if Annie and Anna are the same person). Ok, the post reads as if she just jotted down a fleeting thought. She could have elaborated a bit, mentioned the risks of putting any personal information online, e. g. on facebook, but basically she is right - you can't unpublish what is once out in the internet, and you want to be careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What nefarious reasons could a stranger have for looking at an anonymous picture of your nude body?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, they would probably use it as jack off material, and I guess many people wouldn&#8217;t like that for various reasons. Maybe this isn&#8217;t such a terrible thing. But, as Anna wrote in her post, those pictures could be used to blackmail, expose, or humiliate a person. Imagine your co-workers have seen a few nude pictures of yourself. A lot of very unpleasant things could result. I would certainly not want any ex girlfriend to publish any pictures of me, risqué or not, on the internet (and as a man, I don&#8217;t have half as much to be afraid of as any woman in the same situation). </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t see what is wrong with Anna&#8217;s post (no idea if Annie and Anna are the same person). Ok, the post reads as if she just jotted down a fleeting thought. She could have elaborated a bit, mentioned the risks of putting any personal information online, e. g. on facebook, but basically she is right - you can&#8217;t unpublish what is once out in the internet, and you want to be careful.</p>
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		<title>By: prickles</title>
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		<dc:creator>prickles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 04:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the review of "The Abstinence Teacher."  Clearly, blogger Theresa did not read "The Little Children" or see the film.  
Then there's this gem: "it is best read by someone who is willing to exert some mental energy in order to fully appreciate the complexities of the characters."  
Thanks for the warning, I wouldn't want my head to explode from unexpected cognitive activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the review of &#8220;The Abstinence Teacher.&#8221;  Clearly, blogger Theresa did not read &#8220;The Little Children&#8221; or see the film.<br />
Then there&#8217;s this gem: &#8220;it is best read by someone who is willing to exert some mental energy in order to fully appreciate the complexities of the characters.&#8221;<br />
Thanks for the warning, I wouldn&#8217;t want my head to explode from unexpected cognitive activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/08/if-this-is-what-counts-as-an-educational-organization-in-abstinence-land-then-hell-yeah-we-need-to-stop-giving-them-money-theyre-just-not-that-bright/#comment-66658</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap, I made a mistake, this blog is over 3 years old.  I just hit the last button until I seemed to run out of posts; and look at the thing, it looks so new.  

Damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap, I made a mistake, this blog is over 3 years old.  I just hit the last button until I seemed to run out of posts; and look at the thing, it looks so new.  </p>
<p>Damn.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/08/if-this-is-what-counts-as-an-educational-organization-in-abstinence-land-then-hell-yeah-we-need-to-stop-giving-them-money-theyre-just-not-that-bright/#comment-66657</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't EPT a brand name, not really a technical acronym that need explaining?

I know, it's nitpicking.  But they're so fucking biased (one of the major things I forgot to include in the post, but most readers will figure it out, is that PP is NOT in fact seeking people who are against abstinence in any way.  Abstinence-only education, maybe, but certainly not people who are simply against teens waiting for sex.  But that didn't stop Annie from making that conflation the title of her post) 

Anyway, so fucking biased that I feel every little bizarre tic that every poster has that displays his or her complete lack of thought should be picked on.  Ok, I'm chock full o' biases too, but at least I don't claim to be an educational clearing house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t EPT a brand name, not really a technical acronym that need explaining?</p>
<p>I know, it&#8217;s nitpicking.  But they&#8217;re so fucking biased (one of the major things I forgot to include in the post, but most readers will figure it out, is that PP is NOT in fact seeking people who are against abstinence in any way.  Abstinence-only education, maybe, but certainly not people who are simply against teens waiting for sex.  But that didn&#8217;t stop Annie from making that conflation the title of her post) </p>
<p>Anyway, so fucking biased that I feel every little bizarre tic that every poster has that displays his or her complete lack of thought should be picked on.  Ok, I&#8217;m chock full o&#8217; biases too, but at least I don&#8217;t claim to be an educational clearing house.</p>
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