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		<title>by: that one guy from the one place</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-68330</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For those who's families disaprove, there's always hyphenating, and both parties can do it.  "Mr. hislast-herlast and mrs. herlast-hislast" is becoming more popular these days.  Or, even more fun, change BOTH last names to something completely new and different.  I figure, may as well define yourselves as a distinctive familial unit and pick something together to represent your new futures together.  Could be fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who&#8217;s families disaprove, there&#8217;s always hyphenating, and both parties can do it.  &#8220;Mr. hislast-herlast and mrs. herlast-hislast&#8221; is becoming more popular these days.  Or, even more fun, change BOTH last names to something completely new and different.  I figure, may as well define yourselves as a distinctive familial unit and pick something together to represent your new futures together.  Could be fun!
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		<title>by: Leticia</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66686</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My fiancee and I are planning to keep our own last names.  When we started discussing the topic, /he/ volunteered to take mine, but I pointed out it would be a big hassle (and his dad completely flipped out when he mentioned his bright idea to them) so eventually, that idea got scrapped.  (Maybe.  We still mention it from time to time.  He's a raging feminist, so has strong feelings about Making A Point.  And so do I, so, you know...)

I don't like my father.  He doesn't know I'm engaged.  He's probably not going to be invited to the wedding.  I see and talk to him as little as I can.  There are strong feelings of distrust on my side for many reasos.

But to disown the last name I grew up with because of /him/ would be to grant /him/ ownership over me and my identity.

That resonated with me so much.  It's NOT my father's last name.  It's /mine/.  It's been a part of my identity my whole life.  I'm happy with who I am, despite him, so I see no reason to change my identity to spite him.

(PS, we're looking for rings right now, and he is fully intending to wear an engagement ring.  Because something sure smells like doublestandard when the woman is wearing a ring saying "Owned," and the man's still in the "game".  So who says men don't wear engagement rings?  REAL men are proud to announce their impending marriage.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fiancee and I are planning to keep our own last names.  When we started discussing the topic, /he/ volunteered to take mine, but I pointed out it would be a big hassle (and his dad completely flipped out when he mentioned his bright idea to them) so eventually, that idea got scrapped.  (Maybe.  We still mention it from time to time.  He&#8217;s a raging feminist, so has strong feelings about Making A Point.  And so do I, so, you know&#8230;)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like my father.  He doesn&#8217;t know I&#8217;m engaged.  He&#8217;s probably not going to be invited to the wedding.  I see and talk to him as little as I can.  There are strong feelings of distrust on my side for many reasos.</p>
<p>But to disown the last name I grew up with because of /him/ would be to grant /him/ ownership over me and my identity.</p>
<p>That resonated with me so much.  It&#8217;s NOT my father&#8217;s last name.  It&#8217;s /mine/.  It&#8217;s been a part of my identity my whole life.  I&#8217;m happy with who I am, despite him, so I see no reason to change my identity to spite him.</p>
<p>(PS, we&#8217;re looking for rings right now, and he is fully intending to wear an engagement ring.  Because something sure smells like doublestandard when the woman is wearing a ring saying &#8220;Owned,&#8221; and the man&#8217;s still in the &#8220;game&#8221;.  So who says men don&#8217;t wear engagement rings?  REAL men are proud to announce their impending marriage.)
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		<title>by: Thene</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66635</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm having the opposite dealie; I changed my name, and I have no intention of even telling my father, or most of my other relatives.  He doesn't even know I'm married.  I want him and his name out of my life, kthnx.

I wanted rid of his name, and given that I was getting married to someone with a perfectly lovely surname that seems to fit me in all kinds of ways, I changed it to that name rather than coming up with a whole new one.  Feminism, it is not about spite.  It is not about being forced to make one particular choice in the name of the sisterhood - it is about having a goddamn choice to begin with.  I made my choice, yey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having the opposite dealie; I changed my name, and I have no intention of even telling my father, or most of my other relatives.  He doesn&#8217;t even know I&#8217;m married.  I want him and his name out of my life, kthnx.</p>
<p>I wanted rid of his name, and given that I was getting married to someone with a perfectly lovely surname that seems to fit me in all kinds of ways, I changed it to that name rather than coming up with a whole new one.  Feminism, it is not about spite.  It is not about being forced to make one particular choice in the name of the sisterhood - it is about having a goddamn choice to begin with.  I made my choice, yey.
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		<title>by: Alice</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66626</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"I started to get comments about my commitment to Hubby, couched in I won’t take his last name"

I HATE that.  It's tapered off a bit, but while we were engaged and then just married, it was impossible to avoid.  I would turn the question around, and ask if my husband not taking my name meant he wasn't committed to me, either (and if not, I'd ask why the double standard?  Watching the wheels click into place, with them knowing the answer was "sexism" but not wanting to say it = fun for me!) OR, I'd say, Gee, I thought publicly declaring that we love each other and deciding to intertwine our lives for, like, EVER meant I was totally committing.  With some people, I found that either tack lead to great discussions on why for a woman, her submission = love; I mean, people who otherwise might never have even thought of it.  So that was cool.

The lone hold-out 2.5 years post-wedding is my own mother.  I do not get it.  Every opportunity she has, she uses my first name and my husband's last name -- even signed me up for a magazine subscription in that name. I tried to ignore it at first, but after venting my frustration at her, she starting sending me stuff to my name, &lt;i&gt;in care of&lt;/i&gt; my husband's name, I shit you not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I started to get comments about my commitment to Hubby, couched in I won’t take his last name&#8221;</p>
<p>I HATE that.  It&#8217;s tapered off a bit, but while we were engaged and then just married, it was impossible to avoid.  I would turn the question around, and ask if my husband not taking my name meant he wasn&#8217;t committed to me, either (and if not, I&#8217;d ask why the double standard?  Watching the wheels click into place, with them knowing the answer was &#8220;sexism&#8221; but not wanting to say it = fun for me!) OR, I&#8217;d say, Gee, I thought publicly declaring that we love each other and deciding to intertwine our lives for, like, EVER meant I was totally committing.  With some people, I found that either tack lead to great discussions on why for a woman, her submission = love; I mean, people who otherwise might never have even thought of it.  So that was cool.</p>
<p>The lone hold-out 2.5 years post-wedding is my own mother.  I do not get it.  Every opportunity she has, she uses my first name and my husband&#8217;s last name &#8212; even signed me up for a magazine subscription in that name. I tried to ignore it at first, but after venting my frustration at her, she starting sending me stuff to my name, <i>in care of</i> my husband&#8217;s name, I shit you not.
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		<title>by: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66557</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Amanda, thank you for the congradulations, although I feel a little odd accepting that.  "Congradulations" are normally for something you accomplished: I just happened to win the interpersonal lottery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, thank you for the congradulations, although I feel a little odd accepting that.  &#8220;Congradulations&#8221; are normally for something you accomplished: I just happened to win the interpersonal lottery.
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		<title>by: Laima</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66554</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 12:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I legally changed my surname the year before I met my husband.  We had a whirlwind courtship, and got married within a few months of meeting.  I kept my "maiden" name, which was not the name I was born with, but the name I picked out for myself.  My mother, who had almost disowned me over legally changing my name, was sure that I would take Hubby's last name (because I'm such a traditionalist - not!), but I didn't.  

Fifteen years later, I'm the only woman in my family who kept her own name.  Yes, I'm a staunch feminist, but it's 2008, surely someone else could've bucked the trend in the interim.  But no, cousins and siblings marrying left and right, but the wife always changes her name, talking about her "commitment", as if husbands don't need to make any commitments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I legally changed my surname the year before I met my husband.  We had a whirlwind courtship, and got married within a few months of meeting.  I kept my &#8220;maiden&#8221; name, which was not the name I was born with, but the name I picked out for myself.  My mother, who had almost disowned me over legally changing my name, was sure that I would take Hubby&#8217;s last name (because I&#8217;m such a traditionalist - not!), but I didn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Fifteen years later, I&#8217;m the only woman in my family who kept her own name.  Yes, I&#8217;m a staunch feminist, but it&#8217;s 2008, surely someone else could&#8217;ve bucked the trend in the interim.  But no, cousins and siblings marrying left and right, but the wife always changes her name, talking about her &#8220;commitment&#8221;, as if husbands don&#8217;t need to make any commitments.
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		<title>by: ks</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66530</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I took my husband's name because it honestly never occurred to me not to.  I don't think it occurred to him either, because he didn't bring it up when I asked which of his names he thought I should take (he's Sri Lankan and according to their tradition, I would be K Hisfirstname, but according to western tradition I'm K Hislastname, or I could be K shortformofhislastname--since he was planning on changing his to the short form legally upon citizenship, that's the one I took).  

Now, I kind of wish I had kept my name, or at least hyphenated, but I've been KS for a third of my life and I'm used to it.  Plus, it would be a hassle to change it back and since I didn't have any objections to taking it in the first place, he'd probably see it as a rejection of him, which I don't want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took my husband&#8217;s name because it honestly never occurred to me not to.  I don&#8217;t think it occurred to him either, because he didn&#8217;t bring it up when I asked which of his names he thought I should take (he&#8217;s Sri Lankan and according to their tradition, I would be K Hisfirstname, but according to western tradition I&#8217;m K Hislastname, or I could be K shortformofhislastname&#8211;since he was planning on changing his to the short form legally upon citizenship, that&#8217;s the one I took).  </p>
<p>Now, I kind of wish I had kept my name, or at least hyphenated, but I&#8217;ve been KS for a third of my life and I&#8217;m used to it.  Plus, it would be a hassle to change it back and since I didn&#8217;t have any objections to taking it in the first place, he&#8217;d probably see it as a rejection of him, which I don&#8217;t want.
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		<title>by: Geoid</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66527</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, we'll be marrying in California, the state that had that lawsuit filed. Turns out, unbeknownst to me, it got settled and all I will have to do is write my fiance's last name on the marriage license. CA FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we&#8217;ll be marrying in California, the state that had that lawsuit filed. Turns out, unbeknownst to me, it got settled and all I will have to do is write my fiance&#8217;s last name on the marriage license. CA FTW!
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		<title>by: Lisa Kansas</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66522</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The only part of my birth name I have left intact is my first name, via a series of interlocking, mostly stupid events, beginning with my first husband's sustained temper tantrum til I agreed to take his surname.  My middle and last names have been replaced with, respectively, a German monstrosity and a Lithuanian clunker, and at this point in my life, I have too much invested in the name I've got now to change it back.  But it's very disorienting...we humans put so much in our labels, it messes with your personal identity when you realize that the only one you've consistently had your whole life is "Lisa," which you share with a large proportion of the women of your generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only part of my birth name I have left intact is my first name, via a series of interlocking, mostly stupid events, beginning with my first husband&#8217;s sustained temper tantrum til I agreed to take his surname.  My middle and last names have been replaced with, respectively, a German monstrosity and a Lithuanian clunker, and at this point in my life, I have too much invested in the name I&#8217;ve got now to change it back.  But it&#8217;s very disorienting&#8230;we humans put so much in our labels, it messes with your personal identity when you realize that the only one you&#8217;ve consistently had your whole life is &#8220;Lisa,&#8221; which you share with a large proportion of the women of your generation.
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		<title>by: Amanda Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/05/06/last-names/#comment-66520</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>On the subject at hand: Any man who makes a comment about a woman's lack of commitment because she won't change her name should immediately be accused of not loving his wife.  How can he, since he didn't take her name?  He's failed by his own measure.

Unless of course, you think women are the ones who make the commitment, and men just merely take a wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject at hand: Any man who makes a comment about a woman&#8217;s lack of commitment because she won&#8217;t change her name should immediately be accused of not loving his wife.  How can he, since he didn&#8217;t take her name?  He&#8217;s failed by his own measure.</p>
<p>Unless of course, you think women are the ones who make the commitment, and men just merely take a wife.
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