Comments on: Figure Out What This Guy’s Standard for Real Masculinity in Movie Actors Actually Is and I’ll Give You $5 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/ Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:22:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Lisa KS http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66316 Lisa KS Fri, 02 May 2008 20:14:40 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66316 Mmm...just read the other two articles by him on the Times Online...here's hoping he's *not* a good representation of your everyday Englishman. (I've never actually been personally acquainted with any British men, though I have been with a few Irish men.) Mmm…just read the other two articles by him on the Times Online…here’s hoping he’s *not* a good representation of your everyday Englishman. (I’ve never actually been personally acquainted with any British men, though I have been with a few Irish men.)

]]> By: schrödinger's cat http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66312 schrödinger's cat Fri, 02 May 2008 19:05:38 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66312 It's a British article though. That's significant. A British guy saying that Hollywood men aren't "real men" anymore. Now, isn't there this American prejudice that Englishmen are soft-spoken, polite, civilized, prone to homosexuality... not really "men's men"? And now this guy, an Englishman, is talking about how there aren't any "men's men" in Hollywood movies anymore? So, my guess is that this guy really enjoyed writing that actors nowadays aren't even as masculine as Hugh Grant. Purely in a sense of "...not that I'm so hung up about masculinity myself, mind you, but for a nation who takes so much pride in its machismo... tsk tsk. Poor show." Moreover, it isn't entirely unheard-of for an Englishman to adopt a point of view that isn't entirely his own, merely for the sake of the debate. It’s a British article though. That’s significant. A British guy saying that Hollywood men aren’t “real men” anymore. Now, isn’t there this American prejudice that Englishmen are soft-spoken, polite, civilized, prone to homosexuality… not really “men’s men”? And now this guy, an Englishman, is talking about how there aren’t any “men’s men” in Hollywood movies anymore? So, my guess is that this guy really enjoyed writing that actors nowadays aren’t even as masculine as Hugh Grant. Purely in a sense of “…not that I’m so hung up about masculinity myself, mind you, but for a nation who takes so much pride in its machismo… tsk tsk. Poor show.”

Moreover, it isn’t entirely unheard-of for an Englishman to adopt a point of view that isn’t entirely his own, merely for the sake of the debate.

]]> By: Lisa KS http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66306 Lisa KS Fri, 02 May 2008 13:03:07 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66306 I think Vin has made a movie where he actually appeared to like a woman at some point who he wasn't trying to have sex with. DISqualified! That goes double for Hugh Jackman. Yep, I do believe Kyso nailed it. I now officially owe her 5 bucks. Junk science--yeah, but that phenomena has been around for DECADES--it just used to be that the guys were outright assholes as well as being physically unattractive and having loser lives. Think "Al Bundy." Apparently his objection isn't that phenomenon really, it's that some of them now actually are showing signs of being nice to women sometimes. Apparently that's really the bottom of the barrel. Firefalluk: Ha! :) I think Vin has made a movie where he actually appeared to like a woman at some point who he wasn’t trying to have sex with. DISqualified! That goes double for Hugh Jackman.

Yep, I do believe Kyso nailed it. I now officially owe her 5 bucks.

Junk science–yeah, but that phenomena has been around for DECADES–it just used to be that the guys were outright assholes as well as being physically unattractive and having loser lives. Think “Al Bundy.” Apparently his objection isn’t that phenomenon really, it’s that some of them now actually are showing signs of being nice to women sometimes. Apparently that’s really the bottom of the barrel.

Firefalluk: Ha! :)

]]> By: firefalluk http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66301 firefalluk Fri, 02 May 2008 10:05:37 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66301 <blockquote> So, do you guys have to shoot by the bathroom mirror in a flat-out sprint on your way to the shower every morning so you don’t catch a glimpse of your pitiful limp wanker? Is every time you hit the urinal like a knife through the heart, having to touch that sluggish tube of flesh? Do you ever scream YOU CAN’T BE SERIOUSLY ACCUSED OF BEING CAPABLE OF AAAAANYTHING!! at it in a paroxysm of shame and bitter mockery?</blockquote> At last, a woman with real insights into men!

So, do you guys have to shoot by the bathroom mirror in a flat-out sprint on your way to the shower every morning so you don’t catch a glimpse of your pitiful limp wanker? Is every time you hit the urinal like a knife through the heart, having to touch that sluggish tube of flesh? Do you ever scream YOU CAN’T BE SERIOUSLY ACCUSED OF BEING CAPABLE OF AAAAANYTHING!! at it in a paroxysm of shame and bitter mockery?

At last, a woman with real insights into men!

]]> By: That one guy, from the place, with the thing http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66298 That one guy, from the place, with the thing Fri, 02 May 2008 08:08:27 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66298 DAMN IT! This guy wants to do for men what hollywood already does for women! I don't want movie who are chiseled out of wood, persistently glazed with a glowing sort of sweat and freakishly attractive, that's not a realistic standard, just as unrealistic as hollywood's concepts of attractive women! I'm doughy and flabby and lazy, and I want my favorite characters to be people I can identify with! Why can't we all just have that? Regarding image, there are some days when I wake up from my zombie-esque state in the middle of my shower and think "I like being me, I like the way I look naked", either erect or not, and there are other days, some erect some not, when I wish I looked better, maybe didn't have so much of a gut etc. Really, I think most people are sometimes fine with themselves and sometimes not. Isn't that a sign of mental health? DAMN IT! This guy wants to do for men what hollywood already does for women! I don’t want movie who are chiseled out of wood, persistently glazed with a glowing sort of sweat and freakishly attractive, that’s not a realistic standard, just as unrealistic as hollywood’s concepts of attractive women! I’m doughy and flabby and lazy, and I want my favorite characters to be people I can identify with! Why can’t we all just have that?

Regarding image, there are some days when I wake up from my zombie-esque state in the middle of my shower and think “I like being me, I like the way I look naked”, either erect or not, and there are other days, some erect some not, when I wish I looked better, maybe didn’t have so much of a gut etc. Really, I think most people are sometimes fine with themselves and sometimes not. Isn’t that a sign of mental health?

]]> By: sabrina http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66295 sabrina Fri, 02 May 2008 05:57:56 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66295 June: I don't think Viggo's penis was sufficiently engorged in the shower scene to be called masculine. I mean, yeah, he killed two guys bare-handed and naked, but he didn't have a foot-long hard on doing it. June: I don’t think Viggo’s penis was sufficiently engorged in the shower scene to be called masculine. I mean, yeah, he killed two guys bare-handed and naked, but he didn’t have a foot-long hard on doing it.

]]> By: june http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66283 june Fri, 02 May 2008 00:09:25 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66283 Didn't Viggo have a nude peen scene in Eastern Promises? And he played a tattoo'd killer in that movie, so I think that qualifies him for "Masculine Macho Man" status, even if he was in those gay movies about elves and shit. Didn’t Viggo have a nude peen scene in Eastern Promises? And he played a tattoo’d killer in that movie, so I think that qualifies him for “Masculine Macho Man” status, even if he was in those gay movies about elves and shit.

]]> By: junk science http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66281 junk science Thu, 01 May 2008 22:45:30 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66281 He has a point with the schlubby guys ending up with hot women. When we start seeing schlubby women in lead roles, I'll think someone's being catered to other than guys who think, "Yeah, I'm a loser and I suck, and you should love me anyway, because only women should have to be attractive to be loved." It's stupid to blame feminism for the fact that so many men are disgusted with themselves, and lockjawed "masculine" heroes are hardly the solution, but he has noticed a real phenomenon. He has a point with the schlubby guys ending up with hot women. When we start seeing schlubby women in lead roles, I’ll think someone’s being catered to other than guys who think, “Yeah, I’m a loser and I suck, and you should love me anyway, because only women should have to be attractive to be loved.” It’s stupid to blame feminism for the fact that so many men are disgusted with themselves, and lockjawed “masculine” heroes are hardly the solution, but he has noticed a real phenomenon.

]]> By: Esme http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66277 Esme Thu, 01 May 2008 20:33:42 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66277 I guess when he sees the list of side effects in Cialis commercials, and they say "erections lasting more than four hours..." his brain says "ARE A SIGN OF REAL MANHOOD. I gotta get me some of that!" I guess when he sees the list of side effects in Cialis commercials, and they say “erections lasting more than four hours…” his brain says “ARE A SIGN OF REAL MANHOOD. I gotta get me some of that!”

]]> By: lemur http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66271 lemur Thu, 01 May 2008 18:37:32 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/30/figure-out-what-this-guys-standard-for-real-masculinity-in-movie-actors-actually-is-and-ill-give-you-5/#comment-66271 I guess High Jackmen is disqualified because of "The Boy from Oz". This guy must not see many movies, Eric Bana anyone? Clive Owen? I guess High Jackmen is disqualified because of “The Boy from Oz”. This guy must not see many movies, Eric Bana anyone? Clive Owen?

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