when hillary loses, will she become the joe lieberman of 2008?
Published by JasonC April 19th, 2008 in Wankersi really don’t think i can handle much more of this.
Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) had harsh criticism for the “activist base” of the Democratic Party during a private fundraiser for her campaign, The Huffington Post reports.
“We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party,” said Clinton, heard on an audio clip at Huffington. “MoveOn didn’t even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers.
“[T]hey are very driven by their view of our positions,” continued Clinton, “and it’s primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don’t agree with them. They know I don’t agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me.”
somewhere out there, karl rove is smiling and tenting his fingers a’la montgomery burns.
you guys can all think what yah’ll want to think and vote for whoever all yah’ll want to vote for, but personally, i think this is devolving into something repulsive and wrong. i kept a more detailed take over at my blog where i didn’t really hold back how sick i find all this; and how disgusted i am with a woman who i’ve supported for longer than i can remember.
maybe i’m wrong. maybe this is good for democracy and the democratic party. i can’t see how right now.
but i really wanted to open it up here and see what the punk-assers thought (at 4am on a friday night, no less… okay, so i’ve been drinking… there’s no law against blogging while under the influence…yet, anyway).
here was eli’s take, released to HuffPo:
Senator Clinton has her facts wrong again. MoveOn never opposed the war in Afghanistan, and we set the record straight years ago when Karl Rove made the same claim. Senator Clinton’s attack on our members is divisive at a time when Democrats will soon need to unify to beat Senator McCain. MoveOn is 3.2 million reliable voters and volunteers who are an important part of any winning Democratic coalition in November. They deserve better than to be dismissed using Republican talking points.
*sigh*
the blog title was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, of course, but goddamn if the similarities aren’t there.
just please, someone make it stop.
Well, frack.
JEEEEEEEPERS. Really? You’re gonna hate on your base like that? I mean, I realize no Dem is gonna pander to the MoveOn crowd because it doesn’t play well with the Wolf Blitzer crowd, but that’s horrible.
“and how disgusted i am with a woman who i’ve supported for longer than i can remember.”
You said it better than I could.
*le sigh* I hate listening to people try to talk about MoveOn, I really do. See, MoveOn held these two ballots a while ago:
a) Dem candidates, pick one
b) If more than 50% of you pick the same one we say the group as a whole supports them, y/n?
Guess what happened and why Clinton is butthurt about it. Go on. It looks like she’s kinda unfamiliar with this whole democracy business, and prefers to refer to a group decision as being made by a single abstract entity.
I wonder if the press will make as much of this as they did of Obama’s comments about ‘bitterness’. What’re the odds?
I’m so upset. I was really supporting Hilary in the beginning of this whole debacle, but now, I wish she would just drop out. She is really hurting the base of her party, to appeal to the mythical conservative working class man. The people that have supported her, and would support any Democrat; and she brushes them aside. A good Democrat, hell, a good politician, would care more about this country and where it was going than being president. Right now, I think she only cares about being the president, and not in uniting her party and her country.