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	<title>Comments on: Gender Relations</title>
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		<title>By: N1nj4G1rl</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65561</link>
		<dc:creator>N1nj4G1rl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;"I’ve always giggled when people say we have moved to a “post-patriarchy” and that feminism is no longer necessary."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Haha, that always amuses me too. I experienced the other end of this, we didn't get married and aren't planning on ever doing so, but we had a baby. The last name thing was a huge issue to everyone else, we decided to go the route of hyphenating both names. I had my (much hated) brother-in-law tell me that he would never have allowed that for &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;HIS&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; son. My response was something along the lines of and that is why I'm with my partner, he isn't an insecure prick.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In case this is confusing to anyone, I have already married hubby. PE got ordained online, and we signed the marriage certificate at his house.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Totally awesome way to go about things. If we ever end up doing the marriage thing, I'm going to steal that idea and have one of my friends do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I’ve always giggled when people say we have moved to a “post-patriarchy” and that feminism is no longer necessary.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Haha, that always amuses me too. I experienced the other end of this, we didn&#8217;t get married and aren&#8217;t planning on ever doing so, but we had a baby. The last name thing was a huge issue to everyone else, we decided to go the route of hyphenating both names. I had my (much hated) brother-in-law tell me that he would never have allowed that for <b><i>HIS</i></b> son. My response was something along the lines of and that is why I&#8217;m with my partner, he isn&#8217;t an insecure prick.</p>
<blockquote><p>In case this is confusing to anyone, I have already married hubby. PE got ordained online, and we signed the marriage certificate at his house.</p></blockquote>
<p>Totally awesome way to go about things. If we ever end up doing the marriage thing, I&#8217;m going to steal that idea and have one of my friends do it!</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65542</link>
		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#8220;Do you take Antigone to be your lawfully wedded wife?&#8221;

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&lt;p&gt;
&#8220;I &lt;em&gt;said&lt;/em&gt;, do you take Antigone to be your lawfully wedded wife?&#8221;
&#8220;Hang on, I'm trying to figure something out. Do the bonuses from my Imperious Magistrate's Gaze feat apply here?&#8221;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you take Antigone to be your lawfully wedded wife?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
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&#8220;I <em>said</em>, do you take Antigone to be your lawfully wedded wife?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Hang on, I&#8217;m trying to figure something out. Do the bonuses from my Imperious Magistrate&#8217;s Gaze feat apply here?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: junk science</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65536</link>
		<dc:creator>junk science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Who made those standards, and who is it who upholds them?&lt;/i&gt;

They're upheld by officious, mostly female relatives, from all that I've heard. Not that women made the rules or are responsible for them, but they've decided if they had to suffer, so should you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Who made those standards, and who is it who upholds them?</i></p>
<p>They&#8217;re upheld by officious, mostly female relatives, from all that I&#8217;ve heard. Not that women made the rules or are responsible for them, but they&#8217;ve decided if they had to suffer, so should you.</p>
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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65524</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily enough, we wanted to have our wedding at the Renissance festival, but that idea was quickly nixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funnily enough, we wanted to have our wedding at the Renissance festival, but that idea was quickly nixed.</p>
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		<title>By: punkass marc</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65523</link>
		<dc:creator>punkass marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be cool if the whole wedding was a D&#038;D wedding.  You could roll to see if you pass the constitution check to say yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be cool if the whole wedding was a D&#038;D wedding.  You could roll to see if you pass the constitution check to say yes!</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65522</link>
		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds really weird and annoying, but at the same time, I'm wondering how the group of people who have these expectations - 'sides', gender performances, supposed non-involvement by husband - is defined.  Who made those standards, and who is it who upholds them?  Is it a majority of weddings that follow this pattern, or only a minority?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds really weird and annoying, but at the same time, I&#8217;m wondering how the group of people who have these expectations - &#8217;sides&#8217;, gender performances, supposed non-involvement by husband - is defined.  Who made those standards, and who is it who upholds them?  Is it a majority of weddings that follow this pattern, or only a minority?</p>
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		<title>By: Antigone</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65521</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, D&#38;D is surely the path to hell.  Why, you might drink too much Baileys and Mt. Dew and come up with such insightful phrases as "All animals go moo" like my loving Hubby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, D&amp;D is surely the path to hell.  Why, you might drink too much Baileys and Mt. Dew and come up with such insightful phrases as &#8220;All animals go moo&#8221; like my loving Hubby.</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65519</link>
		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dungeons and Dragons games have their own set of problems, of course.

&lt;p&gt;&#8220;Where's the Mountain Dew?&#8221;
&#8220;It's in the fridge!&#8221;
&#8220;Can I have a Mountain Dew?&#8221;
&#8220;YES! Get it yourself!&#8221;
&#8220;Am I getting drunk? I want to roll to get drunk.&#8221;
&#8220;You're drunk! Fine!&#8221;
&#8220;Okay, but if there are any girls there, I want to &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; them.&#8221;
&lt;/p&gt;

On a (very vaguely) more serious note, I am reminded of Arial Levy's article documenting &lt;a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/2007/sexandlove/30920/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the insanity surrounding her own marriage&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dungeons and Dragons games have their own set of problems, of course.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where&#8217;s the Mountain Dew?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It&#8217;s in the fridge!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Can I have a Mountain Dew?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;YES! Get it yourself!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Am I getting drunk? I want to roll to get drunk.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You&#8217;re drunk! Fine!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Okay, but if there are any girls there, I want to <em>do</em> them.&#8221;
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<p>On a (very vaguely) more serious note, I am reminded of Arial Levy&#8217;s article documenting <a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/2007/sexandlove/30920/" rel="nofollow">the insanity surrounding her own marriage</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: schrödinger's cat</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2008/04/19/gender-relations/#comment-65514</link>
		<dc:creator>schrödinger's cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit, this brings back memories. (Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit, this brings back memories. (Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.)</p>
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