Comments on: Premise: There aren’t that many women in math and science. Conclusion: feminism has gone too far. Obviously. http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:16:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Ahunt http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59477 Ahunt Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:46:55 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59477 <i>Nursing was a male profession until the Civil War, and male physicians and nurses put up a tremendous fight to keep women out of the nursing profession even when there was a huge need for nurses</i> I did not know this, and both of my big sisters are nursing professionals with advanced degrees. Thanks for the headsup, J. And I wonder what Mich Tech guy makes of the men in nursing? Nursing was a male profession until the Civil War, and male physicians and nurses put up a tremendous fight to keep women out of the nursing profession even when there was a huge need for nurses

I did not know this, and both of my big sisters are nursing professionals with advanced degrees. Thanks for the headsup, J.

And I wonder what Mich Tech guy makes of the men in nursing?

]]> By: Andrew http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59423 Andrew Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:02:47 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59423 <a href="http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1067" rel="nofollow">I saw this comic and thought of you </a> (and every other feminist blogger). I saw this comic and thought of you (and every other feminist blogger).

]]> By: sabrina http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59339 sabrina Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:41:23 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59339 Yes, women who just want to get married are made to trudge along in theoretical physics and advanced chemistry classes. In fact, M.I.T. is just full of women who just want to make babies. If thats true, women must be pretty smart to take those kinds of classes just for fun..I guess he's mad cause its actually work for him:) Yes, women who just want to get married are made to trudge along in theoretical physics and advanced chemistry classes. In fact, M.I.T. is just full of women who just want to make babies. If thats true, women must be pretty smart to take those kinds of classes just for fun..I guess he’s mad cause its actually work for him:)

]]> By: Kyso Kisaen http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59222 Kyso Kisaen Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:58:36 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59222 I just like the numbers he bandies about. 80% of women reproduce with 40% of the guys? Twwooooo giiirrrrlllllsssss for evvveeerryyyyy guuuuyyyyyyy! Have a threesome for science, everyone! I just like the numbers he bandies about. 80% of women reproduce with 40% of the guys? Twwooooo giiirrrrlllllsssss for evvveeerryyyyy guuuuyyyyyyy!

Have a threesome for science, everyone!

]]> By: Antigone http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59220 Antigone Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:05:01 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59220 Oh dear sweet zombie Jesus, that link! Okay, I'm not a biologist. But, I know enough about evolution that if men's "take chances genes" were passed on, they would have been passed on to female babies too. And if women had "play it safe genes" they would have been passed on to male babies too. Incidently, I missed the whole "women are better than men" thing in the world. FFFTTTt. Oh dear sweet zombie Jesus, that link!

Okay, I’m not a biologist. But, I know enough about evolution that if men’s “take chances genes” were passed on, they would have been passed on to female babies too. And if women had “play it safe genes” they would have been passed on to male babies too. Incidently, I missed the whole “women are better than men” thing in the world.

FFFTTTt.

]]> By: j http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59209 j Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:52:02 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59209 Nursing was a male profession until the Civil War, and male physicians and nurses put up a tremendous fight to keep women out of the nursing profession even when there was a huge need for nurses. I guess the Civil War made men lose their "desire to nurture something that already exists in to full form." Nursing was a male profession until the Civil War, and male physicians and nurses put up a tremendous fight to keep women out of the nursing profession even when there was a huge need for nurses. I guess the Civil War made men lose their “desire to nurture something that already exists in to full form.”

]]> By: schrödinger's cat http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59173 schrödinger's cat Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:03:26 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59173 J, I clicked the link and am beginning to regret it... <blockquote>Brizendine’s book “The Female Brain” introduces itself by saying, “Men, get ready to experience brain envy.” Imagine a book advertising itself by saying that women will soon be envying the superior male brain!</blockquote> Och aye. It's called the Classics section of any good library. Common denominator with this thread: guy flatters himself that he's fully researched his facts. Uses anecdotal evidence as shaky foundations for grandiose theories. Unwittingly explains why Blake said that "to generalize is to be an idiot". J, I clicked the link and am beginning to regret it…
Brizendine’s book “The Female Brain” introduces itself by saying, “Men, get ready to experience brain envy.” Imagine a book advertising itself by saying that women will soon be envying the superior male brain!

Och aye. It’s called the Classics section of any good library.

Common denominator with this thread: guy flatters himself that he’s fully researched his facts. Uses anecdotal evidence as shaky foundations for grandiose theories. Unwittingly explains why Blake said that “to generalize is to be an idiot”.

]]> By: Ahunt http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59170 Ahunt Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:32:54 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59170 God is a nurse. Doctors didn't save my Mom's life. Nurses did. Doctors didn't teach us how to care for our sick, chronically ill, or dying loved ones. Nurses did. Doctors didn't come to our houses and supervise our care of homeridden but mentally sound and semi-ambulatory loved ones. Nurses did. And as it happens...nurses are male. With families...and partners. God is a nurse.

Doctors didn’t save my Mom’s life. Nurses did.

Doctors didn’t teach us how to care for our sick, chronically ill, or dying loved ones. Nurses did.

Doctors didn’t come to our houses and supervise our care of homeridden but mentally sound and semi-ambulatory loved ones. Nurses did.

And as it happens…nurses are male. With families…and partners.

]]> By: J http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59158 J Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:31:41 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59158 Kyso K said: "Nothing to do with our educational system’s systemic discouraging of girls from math and science, or even that in most schools, math and science teaching to all genders is inadequate leaving only the privileged few and the super determined to fill the vanishingly few, highly competitive top jobs." This is so true, and so rarely pointed out. Kyso K said:
“Nothing to do with our educational system’s systemic discouraging of girls from math and science, or even that in most schools, math and science teaching to all genders is inadequate leaving only the privileged few and the super determined to fill the vanishingly few, highly competitive top jobs.”

This is so true, and so rarely pointed out.

]]> By: J http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59157 J Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:25:27 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2008/01/21/premise-there-arent-that-many-women-in-math-and-science-conclusion-feminism-has-gone-too-far-obviously/#comment-59157 Kyso K said: "You see, women don’t have the creativity or drive necessary to create, they can only take care of what men already made, be it a house designed by our keen minds and built by our steady hands or a child sprung from our mighty seed. If this seems like the rantings of a lunatic,..." Sadly, it sounds like the ravings of an invited speaker at the American Psychological Association: http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm p.s. Was there ever any significant outrage about the speech in the link above? Cursory googling doesn't reveal much... Kyso K said:
“You see, women don’t have the creativity or drive necessary to create, they can only take care of what men already made, be it a house designed by our keen minds and built by our steady hands or a child sprung from our mighty seed. If this seems like the rantings of a lunatic,…”

Sadly, it sounds like the ravings of an invited speaker at the American Psychological Association:
http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm

p.s. Was there ever any significant outrage about the speech in the link above? Cursory googling doesn’t reveal much…

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