Comments on: I’m a Man http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/ Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:59:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: punkass marc http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54165 punkass marc Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:23:49 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54165 chris, sorry, i disagree. did you read the article? what about the treatment was "shitty" to you? that his manhood was questioned? is that worse than what any man has written about bobby reid or any other athlete? and if not, why isn't a man required to have a kid to write such "shitty" things? mostly, i just think the rant is embarrassing for him, but i think there's a sexist sentiment running through it, too. chris,

sorry, i disagree.

did you read the article? what about the treatment was “shitty” to you? that his manhood was questioned? is that worse than what any man has written about bobby reid or any other athlete? and if not, why isn’t a man required to have a kid to write such “shitty” things?

mostly, i just think the rant is embarrassing for him, but i think there’s a sexist sentiment running through it, too.

]]> By: chris http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54157 chris Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:33:12 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54157 "You ever seen a coach talk about how a male writer isn’t qualified to write about athletes because he doesn’t have a child?" That is not only a stretch; it's a non sequiter. The coach didn't claim that she "isn't qualified to write about athletes because she doesn't have a child." It's pretty clear he was asserting that anyone who has a child would not treat a 20 year old as shitty as the sporterwriter did. That is, if she had a child, then she would have more sympathy for young people and not call them pussies in her articles. Same with the "I'm a man" comments. It was a man vs. boy comparison; not a man vs. woman comparison. I don't give a crap about OSU football, but there is some serious misreading (intentional or not) going on here with this episode. “You ever seen a coach talk about how a male writer isn’t qualified to write about athletes because he doesn’t have a child?”

That is not only a stretch; it’s a non sequiter.

The coach didn’t claim that she “isn’t qualified to write about athletes because she doesn’t have a child.” It’s pretty clear he was asserting that anyone who has a child would not treat a 20 year old as shitty as the sporterwriter did. That is, if she had a child, then she would have more sympathy for young people and not call them pussies in her articles.

Same with the “I’m a man” comments. It was a man vs. boy comparison; not a man vs. woman comparison.

I don’t give a crap about OSU football, but there is some serious misreading (intentional or not) going on here with this episode.

]]> By: punkass marc http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54128 punkass marc Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:20:40 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54128 Alex, You ever seen a coach talk about how a male writer isn't qualified to write about athletes because he doesn't have a child? [And by "talk about" I mean "publicly berate."] Didn't think so. Alex,

You ever seen a coach talk about how a male writer isn’t qualified to write about athletes because he doesn’t have a child? [And by "talk about" I mean "publicly berate."]

Didn’t think so.

]]> By: Alex http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54113 Alex Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:06:24 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54113 This seems like you're trying to hard to FIND sexism somewhere it's not. The only evidence of that whatsoever is the fact the the writer was a woman? There's a lot of assumptions here being made...does the coach have a history of being misongynistic or sexist, cause I don't see it here. This seems like you’re trying to hard to FIND sexism somewhere it’s not. The only evidence of that whatsoever is the fact the the writer was a woman? There’s a lot of assumptions here being made…does the coach have a history of being misongynistic or sexist, cause I don’t see it here.

]]> By: thebewilderness http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54110 thebewilderness Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:06:04 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54110 Am I to understand that a young sportswriter wrote a critical column in a public paper about a young athlete, so the adult male publicly criticized the young sportswriter because he is a grownup so it is OK when he does to her but it's not ok for her to do it to the other guy? Maybe being familiar with the OSU football program would make that make sense, but I have my doubts. Am I to understand that a young sportswriter wrote a critical column in a public paper about a young athlete, so the adult male publicly criticized the young sportswriter because he is a grownup so it is OK when he does to her but it’s not ok for her to do it to the other guy? Maybe being familiar with the OSU football program would make that make sense, but I have my doubts.

]]> By: kyle http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54090 kyle Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:31:12 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54090 when did 19 year olds become children who's parents need to call people up on their behalf to protect them from criticism. I mean unless they're a 14 year old who committed a crime. Those kids are adults. But don't pick on the poor 19 year old? And it's a friggin' athlete. So it's not important anyway... Why the hell did i bother even writing a comment. when did 19 year olds become children who’s parents need to call people up on their behalf to protect them from criticism. I mean unless they’re a 14 year old who committed a crime. Those kids are adults.

But don’t pick on the poor 19 year old? And it’s a friggin’ athlete. So it’s not important anyway… Why the hell did i bother even writing a comment.

]]> By: punkass marc http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54084 punkass marc Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:16:25 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54084 <i> You would have to be familiar with the OSU football program to appreciate his tirade. The newspaper column he is pissed about was written by a very young sportswriter who did not fully investigate some claims about a player she recounted in her column. It was a sorry display of sportswriting to say the least and he called her out on it. He had a point that you don’t get. His rant had nothing to do with the gender of the writer. It had everything to do with an attack on a 19 year old football player by a newspaper that does not like the team. He was saying “attack me because I am a mature person that is paid to handle personal attacks. Don’t attack a kid.” That was his point. </i> julie, i agree that gundy was making a point about not egregiously going after an amateur athlete, but there are plenty of ways of making that point without resorting to childish, sexist rants.

You would have to be familiar with the OSU football program to appreciate his tirade. The newspaper column he is pissed about was written by a very young sportswriter who did not fully investigate some claims about a player she recounted in her column. It was a sorry display of sportswriting to say the least and he called her out on it.

He had a point that you don’t get. His rant had nothing to do with the gender of the writer. It had everything to do with an attack on a 19 year old football player by a newspaper that does not like the team. He was saying “attack me because I am a mature person that is paid to handle personal attacks. Don’t attack a kid.” That was his point.

julie,

i agree that gundy was making a point about not egregiously going after an amateur athlete, but there are plenty of ways of making that point without resorting to childish, sexist rants.

]]> By: Halfmad http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54078 Halfmad Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:33:25 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54078 Yeahhhh... I haven't watched it either, but it reminds of an incident recently when I was at work--we were working with some kind of lame stock photo of a middle-aged woman who looked really crabby, and someone wondered if we should use a different photo (because she looked crabby) and the art director trying to be funny did the woman's voice like, "Yes, I am bitter and will never have children and I am taking it out on youuuu!" I was amazed and irritated that he would go there without a thought, and of course took the opportunity to reply, "Oh yes, you are SO right--I for one am SO bitter every time I enjoy my free time, sleeping in on weekends, and using my disposable income for vacations! Man, you're right! No WONDER we're so bitter." "You don't have kids" -- the ultimate "insult to women." Lovely. Yeahhhh… I haven’t watched it either, but it reminds of an incident recently when I was at work–we were working with some kind of lame stock photo of a middle-aged woman who looked really crabby, and someone wondered if we should use a different photo (because she looked crabby) and the art director trying to be funny did the woman’s voice like, “Yes, I am bitter and will never have children and I am taking it out on youuuu!”

I was amazed and irritated that he would go there without a thought, and of course took the opportunity to reply, “Oh yes, you are SO right–I for one am SO bitter every time I enjoy my free time, sleeping in on weekends, and using my disposable income for vacations! Man, you’re right! No WONDER we’re so bitter.”

“You don’t have kids” — the ultimate “insult to women.” Lovely.

]]> By: Andrew http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54074 Andrew Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:55:24 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54074 I didn't see what was so objectionable about it. Cringe-inducing meltdown, yes, but absent any context, his rant doesn't seem all that heavily sexist, with "I'm a man" serving only to contrast with being a boy. I didn’t see what was so objectionable about it. Cringe-inducing meltdown, yes, but absent any context, his rant doesn’t seem all that heavily sexist, with “I’m a man” serving only to contrast with being a boy.

]]> By: julie http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-54073 julie Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:25:19 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/10/im-a-man/#comment-54073 You would have to be familiar with the OSU football program to appreciate his tirade. The newspaper column he is pissed about was written by a very young sportswriter who did not fully investigate some claims about a player she recounted in her column. It was a sorry display of sportswriting to say the least and he called her out on it. He had a point that you don't get. His rant had nothing to do with the gender of the writer. It had everything to do with an attack on a 19 year old football player by a newspaper that does not like the team. He was saying "attack me because I am a mature person that is paid to handle personal attacks. Don't attack a kid." That was his point. You would have to be familiar with the OSU football program to appreciate his tirade. The newspaper column he is pissed about was written by a very young sportswriter who did not fully investigate some claims about a player she recounted in her column. It was a sorry display of sportswriting to say the least and he called her out on it.

He had a point that you don’t get. His rant had nothing to do with the gender of the writer. It had everything to do with an attack on a 19 year old football player by a newspaper that does not like the team. He was saying “attack me because I am a mature person that is paid to handle personal attacks. Don’t attack a kid.” That was his point.

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