Comments on: Patriarchy is like a bra: a bad one can ruin anything, but there’s nothing better than a good one. What do you mean, I missed the point? http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:37:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kyso Kisaen http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-58211 Kyso Kisaen Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:11:44 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/#comment-58211 <I>It’s weird that she, with her ovaries of steel, feels this need to kiss the ass of right wing Christians so much,</i> I'm going to guess misguided opportunism. While I have no doubt that her commitment to women's rights is genuine, her biography isn't exactly a profile in trust: she's obviously deeply affected, scarred even, by her past experience with Islam, and we know she's willing to lie if she feels the end justifies the means. She's also obviously charismatic and cool under pressure. Maybe she thinks these guys are more powerful than they actually are and is trying to use them to publicize her cause here, or maybe they just showed up at the right time when things were heating up for her back in Europe. Maybe she's only seen the part of the Wingnut Welfare train they've wanted her to see so far, and she's not aware of the crazy that bubbles just under the surface. It’s weird that she, with her ovaries of steel, feels this need to kiss the ass of right wing Christians so much,

I’m going to guess misguided opportunism. While I have no doubt that her commitment to women’s rights is genuine, her biography isn’t exactly a profile in trust: she’s obviously deeply affected, scarred even, by her past experience with Islam, and we know she’s willing to lie if she feels the end justifies the means. She’s also obviously charismatic and cool under pressure. Maybe she thinks these guys are more powerful than they actually are and is trying to use them to publicize her cause here, or maybe they just showed up at the right time when things were heating up for her back in Europe. Maybe she’s only seen the part of the Wingnut Welfare train they’ve wanted her to see so far, and she’s not aware of the crazy that bubbles just under the surface.

]]> By: Amanda Marcotte http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-58185 Amanda Marcotte Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:04:51 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/#comment-58185 The numbers of contradictions that Ali spins in the American right is pretty fucking funny. I don't feel confused about her, as they sort of hope that feminists will. I agree with her that the practice of Islam underlines a rather blatant patriarchy, but I think she's kidding herself if Christianity wouldn't do the same if it could. The difference in cultures has a lot more to do with imperialism, resource allocation, etc. than it does with the substance of religious belief. It's weird that she, with her ovaries of steel, feels this need to kiss the ass of right wing Christians so much, because I know she's come to what I feel is the correct conclusion in face of religious oppression: Atheism, or the realization that god is made up and only persists as a belief because it's convenient for the patriarchy. The numbers of contradictions that Ali spins in the American right is pretty fucking funny. I don’t feel confused about her, as they sort of hope that feminists will. I agree with her that the practice of Islam underlines a rather blatant patriarchy, but I think she’s kidding herself if Christianity wouldn’t do the same if it could. The difference in cultures has a lot more to do with imperialism, resource allocation, etc. than it does with the substance of religious belief. It’s weird that she, with her ovaries of steel, feels this need to kiss the ass of right wing Christians so much, because I know she’s come to what I feel is the correct conclusion in face of religious oppression: Atheism, or the realization that god is made up and only persists as a belief because it’s convenient for the patriarchy.

]]> By: Marya http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-56321 Marya Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:21:15 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/#comment-56321 There are tonnes of other Muslim feminists besides Ayan Hirsi Ali; please try to read their books too. E.g. Amina Wadud. There are tonnes of other Muslim feminists besides Ayan Hirsi Ali; please try to read their books too. E.g. Amina Wadud.

]]> By: sabrina http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-53845 sabrina Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:30:09 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2007/11/08/the-good-kind-of-patriarchy/#comment-53845 I wonder if the fact that Ali is an atheist would sort of blow Koerner's argument out of the water? I wonder if the fact that Ali is an atheist would sort of blow Koerner’s argument out of the water?

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