Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, the dynamic duo of batshit religous arguments, are at it again:
Ray Comfort, author of God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists, alongside fellow Christian and actor Kirk Cameron (Growing Pains) will butt heads with two ardent nonbelievers using only scientific fact in a debate sponsored by ABC. Comfort says that the evidence will “absolutely” confirm that there is a God, and he will not speak about his faith.
“Most people equate atheism with intellectualism,” explained Comfort in a statement, “but it’s actually an intellectual embarrassment. I am amazed at how many people think that God’s existence is a matter of faith. It’s not, and I will prove it at the debate – once and for all. This is not a joke. I will present undeniable scientific proof that God exists.”
They’re talking a lot of smack.
Comfort explained, “I am amazed at how many people think that God’s existence is a matter of faith. It’s not, and I will prove it at the debate — once and for all. This is not a joke. I will present undeniable scientific proof that God exists.”
A press release on their Web site goes on to say that Comfort and Cameron will “prove God’s existence, absolutely, scientifically, without mentioning the Bible or faith.”
And athiests (or evil-loutionists, who are all of course one and the same) should be pants-pissing scared.
As you probably know, Ray has credentials for this debate as the author of God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists, a speaker at Yale on the subject of atheism, and a platform speaker at the 2001 American Atheists Inc. annual convention. And Kirk, possibly the most highly respected ex-atheist in Hollywood, is the perfect choice to address the unscientific nature of Darwinian evolution.
ABC is trying to be polite here, but these guys are simply not giving them anything to work with.
As Mike Seaver, the oldest son in the smash hit sitcom “Growing Pains,” actor Kirk Cameron could make audiences roll with laughter. But now he wants to bring them to the Lord. And he’s deadly serious…
Operating as a charitable trust, its intention is to educate and equip the church to preach the message of Christianity to nonbelievers. Cameron says he is motivated by a literal fear of hell….
“On the Day of Judgment,” Comfort tells one man on the streets of New York, “God will see you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. You have sinned against God. You need his forgiveness.”…
Neither Comfort nor Cameron has theological degrees nor any kind of formal training. But Cameron says he’s convinced his new career is vitally important.
Lucky for the vaguely porn-star looking Comfort and his enthusiastic former child star sidekick Cameron, they’re fighting two in-your-face athiests who will likely shred them, but will do so in a manner that will render them unsympathetic characters to the hordes of basically God-fearing Nightline viewers.
“It’s actually OK to hate atheists,” Kelly says. “We are like the last group that people overwhelmingly agree it’s OK to hate, because there’s an absurd caricature of atheism out there.”
While their theological views differ from the Way of the Master, their approaches are similar — brash and in-your-face. The Rational Response Squad challenges people to take the Blasphemy Challenge in which they make videos of themselves denouncing or blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and then post them on YouTube.
You set the stage up right, Comfort. With any luck, your opponents will be so athiest and so scary that the mere fact you’re pro-God will give you the benefit of the doubt in the minds of an audience unused to being challanged. I mean, look at these freaks:
Seriously, which of these two pairs of people would you pick up if they were hitchhiking? Case closed
All you have to do is not make a complete ass of yourself, and bingo, hearts and minds of America, all yours. Should be easy for you, shouldn’t it, Comfort?
Oh, yeah. Tap that magic again and you’ll win fer sure.
and is it testable?
and I mean beyond the whole “God, if you stop the hooker I use from outing me to the press/ hide my people smuggling profits from the IRS/ Give AIDS to all the liberal bloggers I promise I won’t solicit children on the internet for sex no mo”
Because if its not testable its not science people.
Kaybie
As Mike Seaver, the oldest son in the smash hit sitcom “Growing Pains,” actor Kirk Cameron could make audiences roll with laughter. But now he wants to bring them to the Lord. And he’s deadly serious…
What is this, a cheesy B-movie?
I would really, really like to see this, but no me have TV. I shall be eagerly awaiting it’s posting on YouTube. Proof of god’s existence, eh? He’s probably going to point out the window and say, “See that? How can you possibly believe that was all a product of random chance? Goddidit. Case closed.”
“Most people equate atheism with intellectualism,” explained Comfort in a statement, “but it’s actually an intellectual embarrassment.
As opposed to his eloquent and ever-so-scientific ode to the banana? Broccoli is more intellectual than this idiot.
Cat, indeed this be thine lucky day, for the debate shall be streamed on the website, and only portions shall make it to TV, whose time is far more valuable than that on the interwebs.
It will be fun to compare the straight up Nightline debate with the undoubtedly more heavily edited version that would crop up on any Comfort-owned sites.
I think he missed the part where science isn’t “My opinion is X exists, therefore X is proven.”
Personally, I have issues with people who are “motivated by a literal fear of hell”. I was raised in a church that scared the crap out everyone like this, and I left it as soon as I could.
I just think if you believe in god because you are afraid of burning in hell, you need to reconsider why you have faith….
Umm, we’ve done this with actual academics. Dawkins and McGarth. Remember?
Academics? That’s no fun.
There are few things more frustrating than a debate between believers and atheists.
Atheists: There is no proof there is a god or gods.
Believers: Are you calling us stupid? Our made-up religion is extremely complex.
Atheists: So is World of Warcraft, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.
Believers: My aunt Millie loves Jesus and is a very nice lady.
Atheists: Very nice people can believe things that aren’t true.
Believers: I had an experience of seeing god once….
Atheists: (afraid to mention some particularly poignant acid trips) Uh, waking up mid-orgasm doesn’t mean Pam Anderson actually gave you a blow job.
Believers: Religion does very nice things, such as potlucks.
Atheists: Macaroni casserole does not prove the existence of god.
If macaroni casserole does not prove the existence of god, i don’t know what does. tuna casserole? give me a break.
“Macaroni casserole does not prove the existence of god.”
That has GOT to be put on a Tee shirt…
What’s with all the anti-tuna bigotry? How dare you insult my faith!
bananas: excellent for demonstrations in condom usage, theology.
Kaybie: Because if its not testable its not science people.
EXACTLY!
What drives me batshit insane is that Creationists keep insisting that math is science. It’s not. I really want to whack them upside the head and scream: “Math is the study of patterns. Sometimes it’s the study of patterns in the real world, but that’s pretty limited to statistics. Most of the time it’s just the study of patterns in an internally coherent system that someone made up to get tenure.”
There’s a reason why we’re just as unemployable as our friends in the English department.
…eating, baking, sexual innuendo…
My question is: how many ex-atheists are there in Hollywood? Wasn’t that kind of a non-contest?
Ooh, I’m looking forward to seeing that. If they can top the banana argument I’ll be impressed
Atheists: So is World of Warcraft, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.
She said World of Warcraft ISN’T TRUE! NON BELIEVER! If World of Warcraft isn’t true, then why do so many people play it??!?!!! Ha, answer that, aWoWist.
Well, once they’ve finally settled the question of the existence of God, I hope they turn their attention to the real ultimate question: who would win in a fight, a pirate or a ninja?
One is a vaguely-educated porn star look alike. The other is a former shild star terrified of Hell. Together, they fight crime!
And the ninjates would kick both the pirates’ AND the ninjas’ asses.