At last, the Holy Grail of Concern Trolls
Published by Kyso Kisaen February 22nd, 2007 in Bodily Autonomy, Douchebag on Feminism, Feminism, For the ladies, Reproductive Rights, Wankers, What Patriarchy?, WingnutsJoseph A. D’Agostino certainly gets no pleasure from pointing out the delicious irony that because of 40 years of Western feminism, Chinese girls are on the verge of extinction.
Suck it up, ladies, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
The sex imbalance continues to worsen, not improve, thanks to the ever-increasing spread of cheap abortion and ultrasound technology into more and more areas of China, India, and other countries.
…Feminists like to blame this rapidly-worsening situation on “patriarchy,” but that has been around for thousands of years and is less powerful today than ever before. What is new, is the access to abortion in so many places. And this has long been a paramount goal of feminists: To grant the “right to control her own body” to each woman on Earth via unrestricted abortion. That, combined with falling prices for the ultrasound machines that can reveal an unborn child’s sex, has produced the disastrous situation that the Asian world is in now.
I honestly almost didn’t blog this because I simply didn’t know where to start. His assertion that patriarchy is flaccid and weak in China and India, and while it may have been a factor in yesterday’s sex-selective infanticide it certianly has nothing to do with today’s sex-selective abortion or massive girls-abandoned-in-orphanage-by-able-bodied-parents problems? His weak attempt to vaguely connect sex-selective abortions in China and India with America’s sexual revolution? His wierd impression that feminism is only 40 years old? Or the fact that everything after the patriarchy-is-weak paragraph spells HI, I’M THE PATRIARCHY AND THIS IS HOW BAD I CAN GET until he finally non-sequitors over to a final paragraph about how we need to ban all* abortions in America before resident foriegners abort all their girls and then the practice will catch on and whooo willlll marrrryyyy hissss ssoooonnnnnnnssssssss?????!!!!11!
Should we wait for this problem to develop into a substantial one here before taking action? As Americans, we should ensure that this immoral and socially destructive habit does not become entrenched here as our Chinese and other immigrant communities continue their rapid growth. China and India outlawed sex-selective abortion years ago, to no effect, and their societies are headed over a cliff. Here in the United States, with our more effective regulatory structure, we should outlaw this practice and seek to eliminate it elsewhere around the world before this crisis gets any worse.
The worsening sex ratio of the world in general, and Asia in particular, is proof that abortion-on-demand isn’t practical.
But maybe we should listen to him, girls. I mean, he’s clearly concerned about the ladies.
Anyway, there is too much here for one blogger to blog alone. Please, join me in the comments. There’s enough here for everyone. And a special request for links to any good blogs on this subject - all I ask is that at least some posts are in English so I have some idea what I’m blogrolling.
*Well, not all, just the sex-selective ones. But unfortunately the reason the sex-selective abortion bans in China aren’t working are because those son-greedy she-whores can easily lie, so well, you understand…
So, women get some rights, the patriarchy backlashes in such a way that it looks like it might eliminate women, and that proves there’s no patriarchy.
Interestingly, if we had matrilineal families, this sex ratio thing wouldn’t be a problem.
I don’t even know if this is about women getting rights - after all, Asian countries have a totally different relationship with abortion than we do. And as a quick google search will reveal, this is an ancient, ancient problem that’s just been given an effcient, high-tech spin. It’s not like abortion is available in China today because of Roe v Wade. The real key factor in the sudden spike in the problem is probably the ultrasound more than the availabilty of abortion.
The most loathsome part of the whole article is that to come to his conclusion that abortion is the problem here, you have to ignore all of those orphanages that are jam-packed with little girls. Take abortion out of the picture without solving the “must-have-sons” attitude and you’ll just be re-introducing infanticide.
Teh Stupid. It burns.
It is amazing the depths of stupid some will sink to in order to blame feminism for absolutely everything. What’s next, “How Feminism Causes Earthquakes?”
GUH…. this is just such a stupid article… Like you pointed out, there’s a COMPLETELY different mentality about abortion in non-Christian countries, and it’s really not about abortions, it’s about undesirability of girl-children. Good post, Kyso.
Huh. So it’s feminism’s fault that women aren’t valued over there?? Hmmmmm… Not buying it. It’s just more convenient, as you say, Kyso, with the availability of ultrasound. Essentially- technology is outrunning social progress, to put it simply.
I blogged about this too:
http://www.ericacbarnett.com/2007/02/breed_breeders_breed.html
p.s. Kyso: thanks for the link!
How disgusting that someone would turn to a society that hates women so openly to support his argument against abortion.
I like his apocalyptic reference to what life without a wife will look like for 30 million men:
“I JUST MADE MY OWN SANDWICH! WHY GOD, WHY? TAKE ME INSTEAD!!”
Geez, if he loves women so much why is he giving off such a misogyny vibe?
This is not even a problem, really. If it becomes one, the Chinese government will simply put a temporary ban on aborting girls while still allowing only one son until the problem is solved and the ratio is back to normal. Then, they’ll probably monitor the problem to make sure it doesn’t get to this level again, if it’s a real problem to begin with. This seems to be nothing but a disingenuous anti-abortion screed.
Patrick, what part of the words “abandonment” and “infantacide” are you not getting? There most certainly is a problem, just not one any abortion policy is going to fix.
It’s just a fact that Chinese society apparently puts a much higher premium on male children than it does females. Add to that the fact that Chinese law dictates only one child per couple, and you have the root of the problem. Maybe tinkering with the abortion law isn’t the only solution, but it will definitely have to be the major part of a comprehensive set of solutions, which would possibly include some sort of incentives to have female children, and care for them.
Incidentally, abandonment, while tragic, is not the same thing, assuming there are orpanages to take them in. Also, I was speaking about China specifically, not other Asian countries. Anyway, incentives to have girls and care for them should drastically reduce, if not outright eliminate, the problem of abandonment and infanticide.
Also, please remember that I also noted that while this probably is somewhat of a problem, I seriously question whether it is as drastic a problem as the subject of the post insists that it is. This is a person who is trying to use the Asian example as an omen of what could supposedly happen here, as a means of encouraging the end to abortion rights here and in the west in general.
If this is the kind of person I think he is, I have this strange idea that if all two billion or however many Chinese were to drop dead tomorrow he wouldn’t really be all that upset about it, would he now?
I was instructed somewhere down the line, that the reason we she-devils HAVE so many rights in Amurka, is because wimmin were SCARCE for a VERY long time, and this made us (naturally) quite Uppity. Supply and demand, you know.
IF that is true (and that is a VERY big IF, I KNOW) it seems to me that females will become socially more valuable in CHina in the decades to come (if there are any to come, because of overpopulation and global warming etc). Because of scarcity.
Because, it’s man’s world, but it ain’t worth NUTHIN without a woman or a girl. (Most heterosexual men agree with this sentiment, in my experience)
Trying to change a society’s basic beliefs (from afar!) is not going to work. It doesn’t even work from up close! We can’t make them folks over there value females. But scarcity might work.
So as long as we can get all those little girls over here to be adopted by Queers…..(WHY is the CHinese Government making htis harder to do? It’s not like they WANT the darlings.) I am not snarking by the way, I think we SHOULD get them over here, PRONTO.
Kathy, it’s not the government that doesn’t want the girls, it’s the overall society, the Chinese people themselves who have for millennia put more value on girls than boys. After all, if it were up to the society at large, there would be no “one child per couple” law. This is a fine example of the law of unintended consequences, a government imnposing a law without any regard or consideration for the cultural mores of a society.