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	<title>Comments on: Modesty is almost as important as patriarchy and profits, and you&#8217;re the lucky girl who gets to resolve the conflicts between them!</title>
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		<title>By: So close, yet so far away&#8230; at PunkAssBlog.com</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2007/02/17/modesty-is-almost-as-important-as-patriarchy-and-profits-and-youre-the-lucky-girl-who-gets-to-resolve-the-conflicts-between-them/#comment-39183</link>
		<dc:creator>So close, yet so far away&#8230; at PunkAssBlog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Remember when we all pitched in for that dead horse, labeled it &#8220;Rebeloution Modesty Survey&#8221; and then took turns beating it? Oh, that was fun. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the incest-y question.  I believe the Harris boys had to come up with some kind of reassuring explaination about that one, as some girls were a bit squicked out.  And rightfully so, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the incest-y question.  I believe the Harris boys had to come up with some kind of reassuring explaination about that one, as some girls were a bit squicked out.  And rightfully so, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: bridgetka</title>
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		<dc:creator>bridgetka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god. "Immodest clothing is not a problem (for you) when a girl in your own family wears it."

*drumroll*

"Maybe I am alone in this, but my 'Hey! Female skin!' radar doesn't stop to check DNA first."

"A young lady, regardless of your relation to her, can be a stumbling block/temptation to a young man. Sort of a disgusting thought, but men, if not walking in the Spirit everday, can be wolves."

"Immodest clothing is always a problem. Satan can even use our sisters to tempt us."

"A girl is a girl. My sisters look like girls, and therefore they are potentially a temptation. Just because I have a relationship with them does not mean that their womanliness physically can not stir up wrong thoughts."

"Even my Mom can attract my attention if she isn't careful." [There are no words.]

"Well, the only girl in my family is my mom, and she rarely wears immodest clothing, but the few times she has I would say it has been an issue." [Ditto.]

"It makes me so angry! Whatever you say to your sister or mother will be inappropriate and they will get mad at you!" [Seriously! I don't know why my sister got all creeped out when I tell her I want to fill her hot little ass with a big load of jizz! I guess that's why I am in foster care.]

And the winner is a 40-49 year-old man who says:
"I have a niece who wears tight/immodest clothing and it is definitely an issue." [Yes, obviously SHE'S the one with issues, you fucking freak.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god. &#8220;Immodest clothing is not a problem (for you) when a girl in your own family wears it.&#8221;</p>
<p>*drumroll*</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe I am alone in this, but my &#8216;Hey! Female skin!&#8217; radar doesn&#8217;t stop to check DNA first.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A young lady, regardless of your relation to her, can be a stumbling block/temptation to a young man. Sort of a disgusting thought, but men, if not walking in the Spirit everday, can be wolves.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Immodest clothing is always a problem. Satan can even use our sisters to tempt us.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A girl is a girl. My sisters look like girls, and therefore they are potentially a temptation. Just because I have a relationship with them does not mean that their womanliness physically can not stir up wrong thoughts.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Even my Mom can attract my attention if she isn&#8217;t careful.&#8221; [There are no words.]</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, the only girl in my family is my mom, and she rarely wears immodest clothing, but the few times she has I would say it has been an issue.&#8221; [Ditto.]</p>
<p>&#8220;It makes me so angry! Whatever you say to your sister or mother will be inappropriate and they will get mad at you!&#8221; [Seriously! I don't know why my sister got all creeped out when I tell her I want to fill her hot little ass with a big load of jizz! I guess that's why I am in foster care.]</p>
<p>And the winner is a 40-49 year-old man who says:<br />
&#8220;I have a niece who wears tight/immodest clothing and it is definitely an issue.&#8221; [Yes, obviously SHE'S the one with issues, you fucking freak.]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ve been avoiding looking at the survey and suggestions, didn’t want to hurt myself. Looks like I was right to be worried.&lt;/i&gt;

Meh, I wasn't impressed.  The comments get a little wierd, but on average it turns out that although there is a lot of lip service to modesty, girls are still encouraged to toe the standard beauty line. 

Like the body glitter thing. If you assume that "modest" means not only "not slutty" but also "unassuming, not drawing attention to yourself" then clearly body glitter is not modest.  But it is cute and pretty and doesn't involve teh boobies so a majority of Christian guys gave it the stamp of approval.  Same deal with high heels, most make-up and accessories.

The most impressive thing about the survey was the number of girls who want to take it seriously but have not imbibed of the Kool-Aid.  So for every 10 or 15 girls going "OMG Thank you so much I totally didn't know see-through shirts were suggestive!" there are two or three saying "Wait, if half or less of the guys think that ordinary wardrobe component A is suggestive, but the rest say it's ok, what the hell am I supposed to do about that?"  or "You find &lt;I&gt;that&lt;/I&gt; suggestive?  You've got to be kidding"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve been avoiding looking at the survey and suggestions, didn’t want to hurt myself. Looks like I was right to be worried.</i></p>
<p>Meh, I wasn&#8217;t impressed.  The comments get a little wierd, but on average it turns out that although there is a lot of lip service to modesty, girls are still encouraged to toe the standard beauty line. </p>
<p>Like the body glitter thing. If you assume that &#8220;modest&#8221; means not only &#8220;not slutty&#8221; but also &#8220;unassuming, not drawing attention to yourself&#8221; then clearly body glitter is not modest.  But it is cute and pretty and doesn&#8217;t involve teh boobies so a majority of Christian guys gave it the stamp of approval.  Same deal with high heels, most make-up and accessories.</p>
<p>The most impressive thing about the survey was the number of girls who want to take it seriously but have not imbibed of the Kool-Aid.  So for every 10 or 15 girls going &#8220;OMG Thank you so much I totally didn&#8217;t know see-through shirts were suggestive!&#8221; there are two or three saying &#8220;Wait, if half or less of the guys think that ordinary wardrobe component A is suggestive, but the rest say it&#8217;s ok, what the hell am I supposed to do about that?&#8221;  or &#8220;You find <i>that</i> suggestive?  You&#8217;ve got to be kidding&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Older</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2007/02/17/modesty-is-almost-as-important-as-patriarchy-and-profits-and-youre-the-lucky-girl-who-gets-to-resolve-the-conflicts-between-them/#comment-37247</link>
		<dc:creator>Older</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"anything cinched at the waist was a stumbling block"  -- you mean, like wearing a belt?

I've been avoiding looking at the survey and suggestions, didn't want to hurt myself.  Looks like I was right to be worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;anything cinched at the waist was a stumbling block&#8221;  &#8212; you mean, like wearing a belt?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been avoiding looking at the survey and suggestions, didn&#8217;t want to hurt myself.  Looks like I was right to be worried.</p>
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		<title>By: Esme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does the girl in the Boundless ad look kinda jail-bait-ish? And the guy kinda looks about 20 years older than her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or does the girl in the Boundless ad look kinda jail-bait-ish? And the guy kinda looks about 20 years older than her.</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2007/02/17/modesty-is-almost-as-important-as-patriarchy-and-profits-and-youre-the-lucky-girl-who-gets-to-resolve-the-conflicts-between-them/#comment-37237</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that although I wear so many stumbling blocks, none of these assholes ever fall on their face?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that although I wear so many stumbling blocks, none of these assholes ever fall on their face?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or proposing something so pathetic that the girl would have no choice but to laugh in your face, thus allowing you to preserve your virtue.&lt;/i&gt;

No, no, you see, thanks to Boundless magazine, the girl is primed to accept a "safe" lame-o date ata vending machine with a guy who hasn't once listened to a word she said or said anything interesting to her in return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or proposing something so pathetic that the girl would have no choice but to laugh in your face, thus allowing you to preserve your virtue.</i></p>
<p>No, no, you see, thanks to Boundless magazine, the girl is primed to accept a &#8220;safe&#8221; lame-o date ata vending machine with a guy who hasn&#8217;t once listened to a word she said or said anything interesting to her in return.</p>
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		<title>By: ellenbrenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellenbrenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite by far was anything cinched at the waist was a stumbling block. Basically they cannot make themselves look halfway stylish under any circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite by far was anything cinched at the waist was a stumbling block. Basically they cannot make themselves look halfway stylish under any circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenician in a time of Romans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Would you, uh …” he stammers, “Like to join me in having a little something from the vending machine?”&lt;/i&gt;

Pity the story wasn't set in Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Would you, uh …” he stammers, “Like to join me in having a little something from the vending machine?”</i></p>
<p>Pity the story wasn&#8217;t set in Japan.</p>
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