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	<title>Comments on: Does this make you stare at my tits?  No?  How about this?</title>
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		<title>By: Pan</title>
		<link>http://punkassblog.com/2007/01/16/does-this-make-you-stare-at-my-tits-no-how-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-316396</link>
		<dc:creator>Pan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What great entertainment. I&#039;m sorry I missed it, missed by a year it looks like, but given the level of discourse and humor I would like to see how a few hundred irreverent secular feminists parse every thread, haunch, movement and prime cut of beautiful nubile men. Many here have said it already, so I second, what about male modesty? What&#039;s our stumbling block- hairy chest or smooth, skintight T shirt or loose jacket, sixpack or Tony Soprano fat, pants that fit correctly or boast that threadbare golden egg?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What great entertainment. I&#8217;m sorry I missed it, missed by a year it looks like, but given the level of discourse and humor I would like to see how a few hundred irreverent secular feminists parse every thread, haunch, movement and prime cut of beautiful nubile men. Many here have said it already, so I second, what about male modesty? What&#8217;s our stumbling block- hairy chest or smooth, skintight T shirt or loose jacket, sixpack or Tony Soprano fat, pants that fit correctly or boast that threadbare golden egg?</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rofl

Pure Lunacy at it&#039;s best...

Putting on lip gloss is a stumbling block.

Walk with your back arched to correct your posture opens the floodgates to a  world of impure thought, etc...

Fk&#039;s sake...
What is this? 3rd Century Jerusalem?

Women can wear whatever they please as far as I&#039;m concerned, if it gives you an unbearable boner than EVERY guy knows how to deal with that.
Even all those Bishops under grace I&#039;m sure.

Why should we be required to change our lifestyles and dressing habits to cater to a man&#039;s uncontrollable desires and primitive, ape-like urges?

&quot;Oh god, Oh god I saw some titties.... ARGHHHH THOU CAST SIN UPON ME WOMAN!!&quot;

Grow the FK up

My breasts feel sore and heavy at times, alas I don&#039;t demand that men carry them for me to ease my suffering.

This is so pathetic.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rofl</p>
<p>Pure Lunacy at it&#8217;s best&#8230;</p>
<p>Putting on lip gloss is a stumbling block.</p>
<p>Walk with your back arched to correct your posture opens the floodgates to a  world of impure thought, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Fk&#8217;s sake&#8230;<br />
What is this? 3rd Century Jerusalem?</p>
<p>Women can wear whatever they please as far as I&#8217;m concerned, if it gives you an unbearable boner than EVERY guy knows how to deal with that.<br />
Even all those Bishops under grace I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Why should we be required to change our lifestyles and dressing habits to cater to a man&#8217;s uncontrollable desires and primitive, ape-like urges?</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh god, Oh god I saw some titties&#8230;. ARGHHHH THOU CAST SIN UPON ME WOMAN!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Grow the FK up</p>
<p>My breasts feel sore and heavy at times, alas I don&#8217;t demand that men carry them for me to ease my suffering.</p>
<p>This is so pathetic&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or do you believe breast implants are a “vital medical treatment?”&lt;/i&gt;
I imagine most or all of the regulars here would say breast implants are often a way women attempt to conform to the unreasonable standards required of them by society. So they&#039;re not very different to the rules we&#039;ve seen from this survey (which, I should point, out include &quot;no bending over&quot; and &quot;no sitting or laying on a bed&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or do you believe breast implants are a “vital medical treatment?”</i><br />
I imagine most or all of the regulars here would say breast implants are often a way women attempt to conform to the unreasonable standards required of them by society. So they&#8217;re not very different to the rules we&#8217;ve seen from this survey (which, I should point, out include &#8220;no bending over&#8221; and &#8220;no sitting or laying on a bed&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: MikeEss</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeEss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Who decides what’s modest, Rita?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well duh.  OBVIOUSLY the only people qualified to make that judgment are MEN.  

It would be best if they are men who were not allowed to be married and have absolutely no contact with women (except as an abstract concept), yet are in positions of ultimate authority over all.

If your religion does not provide you such men, then you have to make do with whatever representatives of The Patriarchy you have available.

In any case, &quot;Do as he tells you to&quot; is always  the best plan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Who decides what’s modest, Rita?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well duh.  OBVIOUSLY the only people qualified to make that judgment are MEN.  </p>
<p>It would be best if they are men who were not allowed to be married and have absolutely no contact with women (except as an abstract concept), yet are in positions of ultimate authority over all.</p>
<p>If your religion does not provide you such men, then you have to make do with whatever representatives of The Patriarchy you have available.</p>
<p>In any case, &#8220;Do as he tells you to&#8221; is always  the best plan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who decides what&#039;s modest, Rita?  Look at the results of that survey - there is no consensus about modesty among men.  At least 10% of men found things like sweatshirts immodest, or moving in certain ways that most normal people would not consider overtly sexy.  There wasn&#039;t a single item on that survey, no matter how silly, that some fraction of men didn&#039;t find to be unbearably hot.  Hell, that survey created an environment where young men felt comfortable admitting that their own sisters and mothers could tempt them into thinking sexually provocative thoughts.  Are women responsible for all of those men?  Because their responses were given equal weight as those men who just found stripper heels and fishnet stockings too sexy.  

I followed that survey pretty closely, and the one &quot;do hard things&quot; stance they&#039;ve been unwilling to take so far is being very clear about where the line is; where does this lust thing actually become the guy&#039;s problem?  At what point can an otherwise modest girl look at a guy making unreasonable demands and say, no, asshole, this is your hang-up, not my problem.  No one wants to define that point, because that would give the girls a concrete base to say, wait a second, this is insane, when men tell them that wearing a messenger bag strap across the chest (seat belt style, and ain&#039;t nuthin sexier than a seat belt) is too sexy for words.  They don&#039;t want to potentially limit the slut shaming, and that&#039;s bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who decides what&#8217;s modest, Rita?  Look at the results of that survey &#8211; there is no consensus about modesty among men.  At least 10% of men found things like sweatshirts immodest, or moving in certain ways that most normal people would not consider overtly sexy.  There wasn&#8217;t a single item on that survey, no matter how silly, that some fraction of men didn&#8217;t find to be unbearably hot.  Hell, that survey created an environment where young men felt comfortable admitting that their own sisters and mothers could tempt them into thinking sexually provocative thoughts.  Are women responsible for all of those men?  Because their responses were given equal weight as those men who just found stripper heels and fishnet stockings too sexy.  </p>
<p>I followed that survey pretty closely, and the one &#8220;do hard things&#8221; stance they&#8217;ve been unwilling to take so far is being very clear about where the line is; where does this lust thing actually become the guy&#8217;s problem?  At what point can an otherwise modest girl look at a guy making unreasonable demands and say, no, asshole, this is your hang-up, not my problem.  No one wants to define that point, because that would give the girls a concrete base to say, wait a second, this is insane, when men tell them that wearing a messenger bag strap across the chest (seat belt style, and ain&#8217;t nuthin sexier than a seat belt) is too sexy for words.  They don&#8217;t want to potentially limit the slut shaming, and that&#8217;s bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita Book</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do something lusty and the boy lusts, you are guilty and he is guilty.
If you do something modest and the boy still lusts, only he is guilty.

Has it never occurred to any of you that perhaps the cosmetics and clothing you wear were designed to cause lust in men? It&#039;s fairly easy to understand, should you stop groupthinking for a minute. Or do you believe breast implants are a &quot;vital medical treatment?&quot;

It isn&#039;t about mind-controlling the boys sexuality, but getting the girls to be conscious of their own overt sexual behavior. Look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do something lusty and the boy lusts, you are guilty and he is guilty.<br />
If you do something modest and the boy still lusts, only he is guilty.</p>
<p>Has it never occurred to any of you that perhaps the cosmetics and clothing you wear were designed to cause lust in men? It&#8217;s fairly easy to understand, should you stop groupthinking for a minute. Or do you believe breast implants are a &#8220;vital medical treatment?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t about mind-controlling the boys sexuality, but getting the girls to be conscious of their own overt sexual behavior. Look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: appletree &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thursday Links: Hurried Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>appletree &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thursday Links: Hurried Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So Jesus has a sense of humor. Maybe that&#8217;s why He acts as Lord and Savior to the idiots at The Rebelution. Kyso of Punkass Blog puts them in their place. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So Jesus has a sense of humor. Maybe that&#8217;s why He acts as Lord and Savior to the idiots at The Rebelution. Kyso of Punkass Blog puts them in their place. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Armchair Rebelutionaries at PunkAssBlog.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Armchair Rebelutionaries at PunkAssBlog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lisa KS sums up my reaction to the Rebelutionaries.  I’m actually really getting into the idea here that I’m making a bunch of buttwipes suffer agonies by my mere presence in their line of sight. This is totally awesome. How often does a bunch of really dipsh*t guys advertise so blatantly how you can drive them all mad without the slightest effort on your part and without them having the teeniest ability to do a damn thing about it? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lisa KS sums up my reaction to the Rebelutionaries.  I’m actually really getting into the idea here that I’m making a bunch of buttwipes suffer agonies by my mere presence in their line of sight. This is totally awesome. How often does a bunch of really dipsh*t guys advertise so blatantly how you can drive them all mad without the slightest effort on your part and without them having the teeniest ability to do a damn thing about it? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lafekken</title>
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		<dc:creator>lafekken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as guys are sexually attracted to females, IT WILL NEVER END!
*ADJUSTS BUNNY EARS, SANDPAPER BRA AND RUBBER FISHNET STOCKINGS*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as guys are sexually attracted to females, IT WILL NEVER END!<br />
*ADJUSTS BUNNY EARS, SANDPAPER BRA AND RUBBER FISHNET STOCKINGS*</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe &#187; The Real Stumbling Block: Movement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feministe &#187; The Real Stumbling Block: Movement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Amanda and Kyso both link to this blog, which offers its male readers a &#8220;modesty survey&#8221; in order to evaluate just how much the idea of a real live girl scares the bejeesus out of them*. While many of the questions revolved around traditional conservative aesthetics (halter tops are a no-no, but floor-length denim skirts are tre chic), and others are simply ridiculous (baggy sweatshirts with anything on the front, for example, draw too much attention to the chest &#8212; just check out these hoes as an example), quite a few of the modesty issues are less about what&#8217;s acceptable for women to wear (pretty much nothing, as far as I can tell) and more about how best to keep women from moving or doing anything. For example: #1 A girl&#8217;s physical posture and/or position can be a stumbling block. #2 It is a stumbling block for a girl wearing pants to sit cross-legged (i.e. Indian style). #3 It is a stumbling block for a girl to sit with her legs spread apart. #4 It is a stumbling block to see a girl lying down, even if she&#8217;s just hanging out on the floor or on a couch with her friends. #5 The way a girl walks can be a stumbling block. #6 A girl bending over and exposing her lower back is a stumbling block. #7 It is a stumbling block for a girl to bend over with her backside towards you. #8 Seeing a girl stretching (e.g. arching the back, reaching the arms back, and sticking out the chest) is a stumbling block. #9 Lifting a long skirt any higher than the knee in order to step over something is a stumbling block. #10 Seeing a girl&#8217;s chest bounce when she is walking or running is a stumbling block. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Amanda and Kyso both link to this blog, which offers its male readers a &#8220;modesty survey&#8221; in order to evaluate just how much the idea of a real live girl scares the bejeesus out of them*. While many of the questions revolved around traditional conservative aesthetics (halter tops are a no-no, but floor-length denim skirts are tre chic), and others are simply ridiculous (baggy sweatshirts with anything on the front, for example, draw too much attention to the chest &#8212; just check out these hoes as an example), quite a few of the modesty issues are less about what&#8217;s acceptable for women to wear (pretty much nothing, as far as I can tell) and more about how best to keep women from moving or doing anything. For example: #1 A girl&#8217;s physical posture and/or position can be a stumbling block. #2 It is a stumbling block for a girl wearing pants to sit cross-legged (i.e. Indian style). #3 It is a stumbling block for a girl to sit with her legs spread apart. #4 It is a stumbling block to see a girl lying down, even if she&#8217;s just hanging out on the floor or on a couch with her friends. #5 The way a girl walks can be a stumbling block. #6 A girl bending over and exposing her lower back is a stumbling block. #7 It is a stumbling block for a girl to bend over with her backside towards you. #8 Seeing a girl stretching (e.g. arching the back, reaching the arms back, and sticking out the chest) is a stumbling block. #9 Lifting a long skirt any higher than the knee in order to step over something is a stumbling block. #10 Seeing a girl&#8217;s chest bounce when she is walking or running is a stumbling block. [...]</p>
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