Comments on: This Winter Solstice, the Winter Elf gave me a shotgun and a barrel of fish http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/ Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:50:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: y'arizona http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18178 y'arizona Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:19:08 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18178 A display for every religion? That's fantastic, and not at all complicated or infeasible! God, I hated WDOK in December. Always playing that damn holiday music when I just wanted the Beatles or something. But my, my, Cleveland does look pretty. A display for every religion? That’s fantastic, and not at all complicated or infeasible!

God, I hated WDOK in December. Always playing that damn holiday music when I just wanted the Beatles or something.

But my, my, Cleveland does look pretty.

]]> By: Bertie http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18138 Bertie Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:42:55 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18138 I don't think there should be any Christmas displays on public lands, and I'm glad the people like the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State are out there fighting for the principled position and setting the proper left pole in the debate (unlike, say, NARAL's recent unilateral surrender to a compromise position on its particular issue). That said, survey after survey shows that the American public is way, way against us on this one (as with "under God" in the pledge) -- we're talking huge margins here. So if this or that Democratic politician wants to do a bit of triangulating against us over Christmas (or if this or that faceless multinational corporation wants to avoid a backlash over "Happy Holidays"), I'm not going to get all that upset. Because the issue just isn't worth it -- I mean, those heathen northern Europeans with their hard left abortion laws, social market economies and such seem to be able to function as liberal democracies despite having <i>established churches</i> of all things. I don’t think there should be any Christmas displays on public lands, and I’m glad the people like the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State are out there fighting for the principled position and setting the proper left pole in the debate (unlike, say, NARAL’s recent unilateral surrender to a compromise position on its particular issue).

That said, survey after survey shows that the American public is way, way against us on this one (as with “under God” in the pledge) — we’re talking huge margins here. So if this or that Democratic politician wants to do a bit of triangulating against us over Christmas (or if this or that faceless multinational corporation wants to avoid a backlash over “Happy Holidays”), I’m not going to get all that upset. Because the issue just isn’t worth it — I mean, those heathen northern Europeans with their hard left abortion laws, social market economies and such seem to be able to function as liberal democracies despite having established churches of all things.

]]> By: Hershele Ostropoler http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18133 Hershele Ostropoler Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:12:42 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18133 A town with a <b>predominantly</b> Christian population is the last place that should have a Christian display on public property. I suspect the non-Christians feel beleaguered enough already. A town with a predominantly Christian population is the last place that should have a Christian display on public property. I suspect the non-Christians feel beleaguered enough already.

]]> By: PatrickKelley http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18131 PatrickKelley Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:58:02 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18131 The obvious answer is to adhere to community standards. A town with a predominant Christian population should be allowed to erect Christian seasonal displays, on a temporary basis, provided it is paid for with private funds. Never should public funding be used. In any community with a significant population of other religions, those faiths should be allowed to have their own seasonal displays, at the appropriate time of the year. As for Wal-Mart and other such stores, concerning the "Merry Christmas" versus "Happy Holidays" hoopla, that is a matter of corporate policy. The government has no say in that. If people don't like the stores policies, they can vote with their wallets. I kind of like Frutkakes idea, at least the part about the copulating to insure fertitlity. Count me in. The obvious answer is to adhere to community standards. A town with a predominant Christian population should be allowed to erect Christian seasonal displays, on a temporary basis, provided it is paid for with private funds. Never should public funding be used. In any community with a significant population of other religions, those faiths should be allowed to have their own seasonal displays, at the appropriate time of the year.

As for Wal-Mart and other such stores, concerning the “Merry Christmas” versus “Happy Holidays” hoopla, that is a matter of corporate policy. The government has no say in that. If people don’t like the stores policies, they can vote with their wallets.

I kind of like Frutkakes idea, at least the part about the copulating to insure fertitlity. Count me in.

]]> By: Hershele Ostropoler http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18107 Hershele Ostropoler Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:23:26 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18107 "A display for every religion" would be a great solution, if a) you could find a public space big enough, b) there were any sort of widespread agreement over what's a religion and what isn't, c) every religion had some associated display either for a winter holiday or in general, d) no religion had a problem with other religions' displays, and e) there were no pesky First Amendment barring government from promoting any religion, even on an equal basis with all the others. “A display for every religion” would be a great solution, if a) you could find a public space big enough, b) there were any sort of widespread agreement over what’s a religion and what isn’t, c) every religion had some associated display either for a winter holiday or in general, d) no religion had a problem with other religions’ displays, and e) there were no pesky First Amendment barring government from promoting any religion, even on an equal basis with all the others.

]]> By: fruktkake http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18098 fruktkake Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:45:29 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-18098 Maybe then (to honour my ancestors religion) I'll demand a public space where I'll sacrifice a horse, smear my self with the blood and engage in ritual copulation to ensure the fertilety of next years crop. Only problem is Santa will have to give me a horse first... Maybe then (to honour my ancestors religion) I’ll demand a public space where I’ll sacrifice a horse, smear my self with the blood and engage in ritual copulation to ensure the fertilety of next years crop.

Only problem is Santa will have to give me a horse first…

]]> By: Kyso Kisaen http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-17984 Kyso Kisaen Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:17:10 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-17984 They don't pay for every article that is posted, do they? I glanced at the FAQs and left with the impression that you can submit your articles for payment, but I didn't see anything about postings being limited to those that you are paid for. But since my Lindsey is between jobs at the moment, I guess a guarenteed $3 - $20 payoff per submission would better explain her incredible output. Here I had it chalked up to boredom. They don’t pay for every article that is posted, do they? I glanced at the FAQs and left with the impression that you can submit your articles for payment, but I didn’t see anything about postings being limited to those that you are paid for. But since my Lindsey is between jobs at the moment, I guess a guarenteed $3 - $20 payoff per submission would better explain her incredible output. Here I had it chalked up to boredom.

]]> By: (punkass) Marc Faletti http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-17983 (punkass) Marc Faletti Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:09:04 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-17983 I don't understand why a website would pay money for debate class essays written by eleven-year-olds. I don’t understand why a website would pay money for debate class essays written by eleven-year-olds.

]]> By: maditude http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-17970 maditude Thu, 07 Dec 2006 22:13:59 +0000 http://punkassblog.com/2006/12/07/this-winter-solstice-the-winter-elf-gave-me-a-shotgun-and-a-barrel-of-fish/#comment-17970 I think erecting a small satanist display in her town, right next to the xtian hooha, would be just the thing to brighten her winter! I think erecting a small satanist display in her town, right next to the xtian hooha, would be just the thing to brighten her winter!

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