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	<title>Comments on: Firedoglake eats shit, fucks the dead, and misses the point entirely</title>
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		<title>By: piny</title>
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		<dc:creator>piny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Me of course. &lt;/em&gt;

It wouldn&#039;t have been out of order either way; I failed to acknowledge the position of the speaker as an important variable, and therefore created a unilateral standard for interpretation.  I did that only because it felt like a huge red herring in context, and I didn&#039;t want to give anyone the chance to jump on it.  It wouldn&#039;t have been a good idea were I dealing with something broader than &quot;reclamation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Me of course. </em></p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t have been out of order either way; I failed to acknowledge the position of the speaker as an important variable, and therefore created a unilateral standard for interpretation.  I did that only because it felt like a huge red herring in context, and I didn&#8217;t want to give anyone the chance to jump on it.  It wouldn&#8217;t have been a good idea were I dealing with something broader than &#8220;reclamation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: R. Mildred</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Mildred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Do you mean that you seemed to be doing that or that I seemed to be doing that?&lt;/i&gt;

Me of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you mean that you seemed to be doing that or that I seemed to be doing that?</i></p>
<p>Me of course.</p>
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		<title>By: JackGoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackGoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For real.  Go &quot;Simon Legree Wannabee&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For real.  Go &#8220;Simon Legree Wannabee&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy MCCARTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy MCCARTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They’re capos basically, uncle toms without any qualms about taking the whip to the other slaves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Okay, I know this is OT, but will you guys please READ &lt;i&gt; Uncle Tom&#039;s Cabin&lt;/i&gt;?

Uncle Tom is a saintly, jeebus-like figure. It is preposterous that calling someone an &quot;Uncle Tom&quot; is an insult. By no stretch of even an insane man&#039;s imagination, would Uncle Tom whip another slave.

Get your Literary Referents right!!  Or suffer the wrath of a 45 year old has-been!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They’re capos basically, uncle toms without any qualms about taking the whip to the other slaves.</p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, I know this is OT, but will you guys please READ <i> Uncle Tom&#8217;s Cabin</i>?</p>
<p>Uncle Tom is a saintly, jeebus-like figure. It is preposterous that calling someone an &#8220;Uncle Tom&#8221; is an insult. By no stretch of even an insane man&#8217;s imagination, would Uncle Tom whip another slave.</p>
<p>Get your Literary Referents right!!  Or suffer the wrath of a 45 year old has-been!</p>
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		<title>By: ebogjonson.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>ebogjonson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;the dreamlife of potted plants...&lt;/strong&gt;

 If I knew more about music, I would say the above mash-up was be sung to the tune of Skrewdriver&#039;s &quot;Prisoner of Peace.&quot; References to the Firedoglake quotes being paraphrased above can be found here, here and here. Also,......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>the dreamlife of potted plants&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> If I knew more about music, I would say the above mash-up was be sung to the tune of Skrewdriver&#8217;s &#8220;Prisoner of Peace.&#8221; References to the Firedoglake quotes being paraphrased above can be found here, here and here. Also,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: piny</title>
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		<dc:creator>piny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But hey, I was also annoyed that Piny didn’t use the word “nigger” in her post. I think I understand why she didn’t, but it still annoyed me. Again, I can’t put my finger to it.&lt;/em&gt;

(I&#039;m a boy.  Which adds a whole &#039;nother dimension to the whole c-word thing.)  

There&#039;s a whole discussion around how these words should work in discussions about language, and whether off-limits is not as individuated as reclamatory.  I just figured I&#039;d do what I normally do and stick with the specific issue I was tackling right then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But hey, I was also annoyed that Piny didn’t use the word “nigger” in her post. I think I understand why she didn’t, but it still annoyed me. Again, I can’t put my finger to it.</em></p>
<p>(I&#8217;m a boy.  Which adds a whole &#8216;nother dimension to the whole c-word thing.)  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a whole discussion around how these words should work in discussions about language, and whether off-limits is not as individuated as reclamatory.  I just figured I&#8217;d do what I normally do and stick with the specific issue I was tackling right then.</p>
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		<title>By: piny</title>
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		<dc:creator>piny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;That’d be the People of Paleness telling POC what to do aspect of it I’d think, also the association such talk has with all those stormfronters going on about how it’s so unfair that white people can’t say nigger while poc can, and Oh! the injustice of it all…

And that’s before I get into the fact I’ve never heard any POC in real life use nigger in that sense.&lt;/em&gt;

Do you mean that you seemed to be doing that or that I seemed to be doing that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That’d be the People of Paleness telling POC what to do aspect of it I’d think, also the association such talk has with all those stormfronters going on about how it’s so unfair that white people can’t say nigger while poc can, and Oh! the injustice of it all…</p>
<p>And that’s before I get into the fact I’ve never heard any POC in real life use nigger in that sense.</em></p>
<p>Do you mean that you seemed to be doing that or that I seemed to be doing that?</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I linked over to FDL when I started just reading blogs, got it from somewhere.  I was put off then by them yet couldn&#039;t really pinpoint why, I just didn&#039;t like their tone or their style, or something.

Since the last couple of months I&#039;m thinking that the intutition I&#039;ve worked on for years to sense when mysoginy is in the air went off and I turned away without giving it a second thought. Glad to know that I&#039;m finally learning to stay out of the goddamned mine field. For me, as a woman, that is exactly how it feels when stumbling upon such offensive trash as that piece on the congresswoman.  

I have met a million jerks like T-rek or whatever he calls himself, but Jane Hamsher? When I see a supposedly intelligent woman so drunk with stupidity I am truly stumped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I linked over to FDL when I started just reading blogs, got it from somewhere.  I was put off then by them yet couldn&#8217;t really pinpoint why, I just didn&#8217;t like their tone or their style, or something.</p>
<p>Since the last couple of months I&#8217;m thinking that the intutition I&#8217;ve worked on for years to sense when mysoginy is in the air went off and I turned away without giving it a second thought. Glad to know that I&#8217;m finally learning to stay out of the goddamned mine field. For me, as a woman, that is exactly how it feels when stumbling upon such offensive trash as that piece on the congresswoman.  </p>
<p>I have met a million jerks like T-rek or whatever he calls himself, but Jane Hamsher? When I see a supposedly intelligent woman so drunk with stupidity I am truly stumped.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeEss</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeEss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HopeSpringsATurtle, I didn&#039;t think he was that old...

In any case, you&#039;re right, and it&#039;s about time he take responsibility for his words...

I did a search on his real name (to see if I could quickly verify his age) and was reminded that he had some interesting things to say to &lt;a href=&quot;welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2006/10/he-who-sleeps-with-firedogs-wakes-up.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jurassic Pork&lt;/a&gt; that didn&#039;t come off too nice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HopeSpringsATurtle, I didn&#8217;t think he was that old&#8230;</p>
<p>In any case, you&#8217;re right, and it&#8217;s about time he take responsibility for his words&#8230;</p>
<p>I did a search on his real name (to see if I could quickly verify his age) and was reminded that he had some interesting things to say to <a href="welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2006/10/he-who-sleeps-with-firedogs-wakes-up.html" rel="nofollow">Jurassic Pork</a> that didn&#8217;t come off too nice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HopeSpringsATurtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>HopeSpringsATurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Ess... TWrecks is 38 years old a bit past the appropriate age for juvenile &quot;punk  rock&quot; outbursts  doncha think?  I used to love fdl now, not so much. To put it plainly, Mean People Suck. FDL is no longer on my blogroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Ess&#8230; TWrecks is 38 years old a bit past the appropriate age for juvenile &#8220;punk  rock&#8221; outbursts  doncha think?  I used to love fdl now, not so much. To put it plainly, Mean People Suck. FDL is no longer on my blogroll.</p>
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