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	<title>Comments on: I was also unable to think of any western patriarchal traditions</title>
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		<title>By: On Using Anti-Oppression Rhetoric to Maintain Yourself &#171; Off Our Pedestals</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Using Anti-Oppression Rhetoric to Maintain Yourself &#171; Off Our Pedestals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s actually a pretty common defensive tactic. I see it all the time. In the burqa wars&#8211;and in fact in pretty much any clusterfuck involving Amanda&#8211;it was &#8220;You&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s actually a pretty common defensive tactic. I see it all the time. In the burqa wars&#8211;and in fact in pretty much any clusterfuck involving Amanda&#8211;it was &#8220;You&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mel the indifferent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel the indifferent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you just love it when WASP women residing in an alien culture draw out what is oppressive and what isn&#039;t with regards to Muslim women?

I was born a Muslim, lived around them for most of my life and I can safely say that I haven&#039;t met a single Muslim woman who was forced to wear the hijab (I grew up in the UAE). You feminazis really need to lay of Fox and CNN, they are like sodium cyanide for your minds. 

&quot;If we can agree that anorexia and high heels are symbols of patriarchal oppression,&quot;

Actually those are a natural consequence of feminist sponsored &quot;sexual liberation.&quot; When the feminazis duped women into rebelling against their natural instincts and dumping the roles of wife/mother, women began obsessing about their physical image. In typical doublespeak the Feminazis now blame this on &quot;patriarchy&quot; that phantom foe who is the Sauron of the feminist world view. 

Anyhow the Muslim women I&#039;ve grown up with and encountered in my life are healthy, emotionally stable and take the roles of Wife/Mother seriously. As such they are not neurotically obsessed with their physical appearance and neither do they grow bitter at age 40 like Western women (who blame their dysfunction on &quot;patriarchy&quot; again). They raise healthy kids and are a source of emotional strength for their husbands. 

Oh and they all wear the Hijab and are proud to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you just love it when WASP women residing in an alien culture draw out what is oppressive and what isn&#8217;t with regards to Muslim women?</p>
<p>I was born a Muslim, lived around them for most of my life and I can safely say that I haven&#8217;t met a single Muslim woman who was forced to wear the hijab (I grew up in the UAE). You feminazis really need to lay of Fox and CNN, they are like sodium cyanide for your minds. </p>
<p>&#8220;If we can agree that anorexia and high heels are symbols of patriarchal oppression,&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually those are a natural consequence of feminist sponsored &#8220;sexual liberation.&#8221; When the feminazis duped women into rebelling against their natural instincts and dumping the roles of wife/mother, women began obsessing about their physical image. In typical doublespeak the Feminazis now blame this on &#8220;patriarchy&#8221; that phantom foe who is the Sauron of the feminist world view. </p>
<p>Anyhow the Muslim women I&#8217;ve grown up with and encountered in my life are healthy, emotionally stable and take the roles of Wife/Mother seriously. As such they are not neurotically obsessed with their physical appearance and neither do they grow bitter at age 40 like Western women (who blame their dysfunction on &#8220;patriarchy&#8221; again). They raise healthy kids and are a source of emotional strength for their husbands. </p>
<p>Oh and they all wear the Hijab and are proud to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitch &#124; Lab &#187; Two thoughts and questions on Burqagate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitch &#124; Lab &#187; Two thoughts and questions on Burqagate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of the things I thought curious and I wondered, am I nuts to think this? In the discussion at Punkass and at Happy Feminist, people kept saying that US feminists didn&#8217;t make the Burqa the ultimate symbol of oppression but, rather, the Taliban did. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the things I thought curious and I wondered, am I nuts to think this? In the discussion at Punkass and at Happy Feminist, people kept saying that US feminists didn&#8217;t make the Burqa the ultimate symbol of oppression but, rather, the Taliban did. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: afg PRIDE</title>
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		<dc:creator>afg PRIDE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh...   it sounds like there is a bunch of white woman writing about things they know nothing about, and everyone here is basing their facts off of *sources* like NPR or Fox News...

Number one, misinformed ladies.... don&#039;t talk about the WOMEN of afghanistan if you are going to refer to us as AFGHANIS

i assume you don&#039;t understand how calling us afghanis immediately makes anything you write irrelevant... let me clue you in...

AFGHANI is the same equvilent as an american DOLLAR....

US citizens aren&#039;t called DOLLARS are they?  Well, neither are AFGHAN citizens.

We ARE called AFGHANS.

If perhaps, you had called afghan woman as afghans, instead of &#039;afghanis&#039; then I might post something about the subject being said.... as an afghan woman.

But first, get your terms straight people ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh&#8230;   it sounds like there is a bunch of white woman writing about things they know nothing about, and everyone here is basing their facts off of *sources* like NPR or Fox News&#8230;</p>
<p>Number one, misinformed ladies&#8230;. don&#8217;t talk about the WOMEN of afghanistan if you are going to refer to us as AFGHANIS</p>
<p>i assume you don&#8217;t understand how calling us afghanis immediately makes anything you write irrelevant&#8230; let me clue you in&#8230;</p>
<p>AFGHANI is the same equvilent as an american DOLLAR&#8230;.</p>
<p>US citizens aren&#8217;t called DOLLARS are they?  Well, neither are AFGHAN citizens.</p>
<p>We ARE called AFGHANS.</p>
<p>If perhaps, you had called afghan woman as afghans, instead of &#8216;afghanis&#8217; then I might post something about the subject being said&#8230;. as an afghan woman.</p>
<p>But first, get your terms straight people &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gyahhhh.  People are trying to explain why the bloody IMAGE is OFFENSIVE.  since you ASKED. No.  No one i saying anyone is supporting--

actually?  I&#039;m gonna just point to Black Amazon commenting over at Bitch Lab, as she sums the bottom line up just fine her damn self.  More than fine. Which is the point, here.  HERSELF.

http://blog.pulpculture.org/2006/10/06/its-open-mock-at-bitch-lab/#comment-12404

BA did not actually give me permission to do this, so fair warning: just read the fucking thing, then go away and process it.  Really.  Say something -else- fuckwitted to my friend in my -other- friend&#039;s post and i will hold you down while they kick your pasty ass from here to Saturn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gyahhhh.  People are trying to explain why the bloody IMAGE is OFFENSIVE.  since you ASKED. No.  No one i saying anyone is supporting&#8211;</p>
<p>actually?  I&#8217;m gonna just point to Black Amazon commenting over at Bitch Lab, as she sums the bottom line up just fine her damn self.  More than fine. Which is the point, here.  HERSELF.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.pulpculture.org/2006/10/06/its-open-mock-at-bitch-lab/#comment-12404" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pulpculture.org/2006/10/06/its-open-mock-at-bitch-lab/#comment-12404</a></p>
<p>BA did not actually give me permission to do this, so fair warning: just read the fucking thing, then go away and process it.  Really.  Say something -else- fuckwitted to my friend in my -other- friend&#8217;s post and i will hold you down while they kick your pasty ass from here to Saturn.</p>
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		<title>By: caromboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>caromboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and in case there&#039;s confusion, by &quot;everyone who decided to violently interfere in Afghanistan’s internal governance in the first place&quot; I meant government policy makers, the ones who actually make the decisions and implement the policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and in case there&#8217;s confusion, by &#8220;everyone who decided to violently interfere in Afghanistan’s internal governance in the first place&#8221; I meant government policy makers, the ones who actually make the decisions and implement the policies.</p>
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		<title>By: caromboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>caromboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh I didn&#039;t say that, fat doug lover. (If you&#039;re talking to me) Donna asked who put the women in the burquas and I&#039;m answering that imo, we as a country did, since before we involved outself in Afghanistan in the 80&#039;s most women didn&#039;t wear them and now thanks in large part to governments we installed, they do. Donna&#039;s answer is Islamic men did, therefore the cartoon is mocking them, I&#039;m disagreeing that that&#039;s the only possible interpretation. (Um, BTW, I don&#039;t have a special Get Out of Taxes Free Card, so if I were accusing other taxpayers of secret support for the ghost of Reagan, I&#039;d have to be included in that too, see how that works?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh I didn&#8217;t say that, fat doug lover. (If you&#8217;re talking to me) Donna asked who put the women in the burquas and I&#8217;m answering that imo, we as a country did, since before we involved outself in Afghanistan in the 80&#8242;s most women didn&#8217;t wear them and now thanks in large part to governments we installed, they do. Donna&#8217;s answer is Islamic men did, therefore the cartoon is mocking them, I&#8217;m disagreeing that that&#8217;s the only possible interpretation. (Um, BTW, I don&#8217;t have a special Get Out of Taxes Free Card, so if I were accusing other taxpayers of secret support for the ghost of Reagan, I&#8217;d have to be included in that too, see how that works?)</p>
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		<title>By: feminish &#187; Carnivals!</title>
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		<dc:creator>feminish &#187; Carnivals!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And then there&#8217;s the feminist blogosphere veil/burqa thing (see also this and this) - an evolution of last month&#8217;s Boob Thing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And then there&#8217;s the feminist blogosphere veil/burqa thing (see also this and this) &#8211; an evolution of last month&#8217;s Boob Thing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MikeEss</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeEss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people pay good money for that... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people pay good money for that&#8230; <img src='http://punkassblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;and I’m gonna have to start handing out the spankings.&lt;/em&gt;

Me! Me first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>and I’m gonna have to start handing out the spankings.</em></p>
<p>Me! Me first!</p>
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