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	<title>Comments on: Sweater dresses are the Key to Countering Dangerous Sexual Encounters on Campus</title>
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		<title>By: bellatrys</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellatrys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There is also the uncomfortable implication, for some guys, that this “looser” date rape or aquaintence rape definition includes things that maybe they have done in the past and not felt bad about, or stuff that their freinds have done. Someone with that on their conscience might prefer to go back to the old standard.&lt;/i&gt;

Kyso, amen. There is an impressive old book by a couple of researchers one of whom is actually in my area, and more known for doing work on Child Abuse but it&#039;s called &quot;Licence to Rape&quot; from the 1980s, all about marital rape, and all the perps wanted to have it both ways, to simultaneously insist that they were entitled to &quot;take sex&quot; from &quot;withholding bitches&quot; (esp if their wives were trying to divorce them) and at the same time saying &quot;yes, I guess it was rape - but she could have fought harder, so it wasn&#039;t&quot; - and think about it, the culture says that &quot;girls always say no when they mean yes,&quot; of course boys raised to believe this are going to be like those stud dogs and stallions I wrote about on Pandagon, albeit without the excuses of not knowing any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There is also the uncomfortable implication, for some guys, that this “looser” date rape or aquaintence rape definition includes things that maybe they have done in the past and not felt bad about, or stuff that their freinds have done. Someone with that on their conscience might prefer to go back to the old standard.</i></p>
<p>Kyso, amen. There is an impressive old book by a couple of researchers one of whom is actually in my area, and more known for doing work on Child Abuse but it&#8217;s called &#8220;Licence to Rape&#8221; from the 1980s, all about marital rape, and all the perps wanted to have it both ways, to simultaneously insist that they were entitled to &#8220;take sex&#8221; from &#8220;withholding bitches&#8221; (esp if their wives were trying to divorce them) and at the same time saying &#8220;yes, I guess it was rape &#8211; but she could have fought harder, so it wasn&#8217;t&#8221; &#8211; and think about it, the culture says that &#8220;girls always say no when they mean yes,&#8221; of course boys raised to believe this are going to be like those stud dogs and stallions I wrote about on Pandagon, albeit without the excuses of not knowing any better.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyway, thanks for all that (including the Babeland links); it&#039;s sort of refreshing to have a right-wing attack on &quot;sex-positive feminism&quot; for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyway, thanks for all that (including the Babeland links); it&#8217;s sort of refreshing to have a right-wing attack on &#8220;sex-positive feminism&#8221; for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and of course zuzu is absolutely right.  BUBBLE SKIRTS??  dear lord.  hey, let&#039;s add shoulder pads, Joan Crawford eyebrows, and those godawful little floppy bow-ties while we&#039;re at it; sure, they&#039;ve come back again and again too, but i bet -never all in combination with the bubble skirt.-

sounds like an apt Clare Booth Luce sort of outfit, at that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and of course zuzu is absolutely right.  BUBBLE SKIRTS??  dear lord.  hey, let&#8217;s add shoulder pads, Joan Crawford eyebrows, and those godawful little floppy bow-ties while we&#8217;re at it; sure, they&#8217;ve come back again and again too, but i bet -never all in combination with the bubble skirt.-</p>
<p>sounds like an apt Clare Booth Luce sort of outfit, at that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, and here I thought &quot;Clare Booth Luce Institute&quot; was sarcasm.  golly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, and here I thought &#8220;Clare Booth Luce Institute&#8221; was sarcasm.  golly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why do these people always harp on this concept of reporting something as rape because you regret the sexual encounter? I’ve regretted some of the sex I’ve had. You know how I deal with it: I don’t talk about it. And I don’t make a police record of its occurance. Do these people actually believe that women report rape for sh*ts and giggles? &lt;/i&gt;

Not exactly. They do believe that women very frequently regret having sex, particularly casual sex, because they believe women are &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; being used by men when they have sex. it is inconceivable to them that women might want to have sex because they want to have sex, rather than because they&#039;ve been tricked into it or for male attention/approval. In essence, it&#039;s because they believe women are always debased by sex, and thus frequently report rape to deflect their shame at having been debased by men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why do these people always harp on this concept of reporting something as rape because you regret the sexual encounter? I’ve regretted some of the sex I’ve had. You know how I deal with it: I don’t talk about it. And I don’t make a police record of its occurance. Do these people actually believe that women report rape for sh*ts and giggles? </i></p>
<p>Not exactly. They do believe that women very frequently regret having sex, particularly casual sex, because they believe women are <i>always</i> being used by men when they have sex. it is inconceivable to them that women might want to have sex because they want to have sex, rather than because they&#8217;ve been tricked into it or for male attention/approval. In essence, it&#8217;s because they believe women are always debased by sex, and thus frequently report rape to deflect their shame at having been debased by men.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You know what? I just realized that 25 percent is a big fucking number. Like, really fucking big. &lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s one of the major reasons I&#039;m a feminist (the others being my mother raised me right; I have some common sense; and the realization that the same people who want to hang gays, lesbians and feminists would string me up next, white legs, ballsack and all).  Around high school, I started realizing how many of the women I cared about had been raped, and in college, the numbers just got bigger and bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You know what? I just realized that 25 percent is a big fucking number. Like, really fucking big. </em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the major reasons I&#8217;m a feminist (the others being my mother raised me right; I have some common sense; and the realization that the same people who want to hang gays, lesbians and feminists would string me up next, white legs, ballsack and all).  Around high school, I started realizing how many of the women I cared about had been raped, and in college, the numbers just got bigger and bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say something substantive, but I&#039;m too traumatized by the idea that bubble skirts are making a comeback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say something substantive, but I&#8217;m too traumatized by the idea that bubble skirts are making a comeback.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyso Kisaen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyso Kisaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is pretty big.   It almost makes you think crazy insane thoughts like &quot;If one out of every four or five women I know has been sexually assaulted, or been an attempted victim of sexual assault, maybe the problem is too big to solve by asking them to stay home and read their bible.  Perhaps we should look into this.&quot;

Almost.  Not quite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty big.   It almost makes you think crazy insane thoughts like &#8220;If one out of every four or five women I know has been sexually assaulted, or been an attempted victim of sexual assault, maybe the problem is too big to solve by asking them to stay home and read their bible.  Perhaps we should look into this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Almost.  Not quite.</p>
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		<title>By: junk science</title>
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		<dc:creator>junk science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what? I just realized that 25 percent is a big fucking number. Like, really fucking big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what? I just realized that 25 percent is a big fucking number. Like, really fucking big.</p>
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		<title>By: JackGoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackGoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Statistics-challenged misogynists&lt;/i&gt;

But you repeat yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Statistics-challenged misogynists</i></p>
<p>But you repeat yourself.</p>
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