Officially a “porn liberal” now, woohoo!
Published by R. Mildred May 24th, 2006 in HUH!?, Pr0n, Rape, What Patriarchy?, WingnutsWe have another rightwing fan it seems, this time dawn eden, who writes:
My meaning was clear to most readers, though in retrospect I should have been more specific about a point I thought was obvious — that pedophiles use the goal of “demystifying” sex as an excuse to the children whom they prey upon. (The point was made, I thought, with my reference to the excuse parents use for letting their children see obscene materials.)
Since The Dawn Patrol’s readership appears to be mostly Christian, I thought you might be interested to know that my sentiments struck a nerve with what I call, for lack of a better term, the “porn liberal” crowd. (Suggestions for a different label — one that doesn’t impugn left-wingers, not all of whom support porn — would be welcome.)
Aside from the apparent evidence that centrists have gone so far right that Dawn Eden doesn’t want to insult all liberals as a group (thank you so much marcos and avorosis’ friend andrew sullivan), I like that she quotes this bit from my piece that focuses on the non-peadophile obsessed bit of her post:
“… Dawn Eden has been poked but never owned, thus making her entire gibbering about the ‘mystery’ of sex even more nonsensical and irrelevent because sex can never be ‘mysterious’ for her, and she has no real experience of a successful marriage either so what the hell is she gibbering about really?”
Which, in context (a word she’s not too familiar with it seems), I think, is her “mystified” (i.e. obtuse to the point of incoherency) way of calling porn liberals peadophiles, or peadophile enablers, or something of that stripe, even though I didn’t tackle the peadophilia bullshit thing in my post, instead opting for a long rant in defense of the act of Love.
But I am intrigued now; Is it because Dawn thinks that all rape victims by definintion must have done something to deserve being raped and therefore asked for it in some sense, that leads her to believe that victims of child molestation have to be goaded into enabling their abusers from the get-go via porn and presumably the anatomical diagrams shown in Sex-Ed classes? Because if so, she officially goes into the group I label “creepy weirdos who didn’t understand that Lolita’s protagonists was a bad person”, and will burn in her hell for a long time indeed.
Come on dawny-poo, my whole post was about the compassion of Love that weirdo “mystery” obsessed conservatives deny themselves inspite of jesus’ teachings, and yet you’re gibbering about “christians” and how peadophiles need porn to molest children rather than needing a stiff drink and some patriarchal justification that “she’s asking for it”, do you really think that a child can stop a grown man molesting them, or that a peadophile is going to get a child to follow them home with pr0n, rather than say a disney movie?
Hell Dawn, you don’t find pr0n nice to look at now, did you find it nice to look at when you were 5 or 10 years old? Because I know my reaction to someone showing me penthouse would have been “eeeew!” at that age, promptly followed by me running the hell away from it.
Actually that’s my current reaction to penthouse, now that I think about it, but the point stands, why the hell would a peadophile, who is usually a relation of the opposite gender to the victim if you’ll recall dawny-poo (how is derbyshire’s daughter doing by the way?), need porn to initiate their victims into so-called sexuality with an emotionally complex movie with “real sex action™”, rather than simply holding them down, jacking the kid’s pants down and banging away during the middle of a showing of disney’s snow white and the seven dwarfs? I’m talking logically here of course, if dawn wants to enlighten us to her own special techniques for child molestation I’m sure we could all find a bucket for vomiting into as we read it.
But seriously, why on earth does dawn think that the child will be in any way “consenting” to the abuse? Does she, like derbyshire and humbert humbert, have any little children locked in her creepy cat lady basement who’s abuse she’s trying to justify?
Dawn and Jeffypoo have seen the punkass revolution coming for them. Their feeble attempts to beat us back with q-tips only makes us hungrier.
First off - W00t, Mildred! Good for you!
Somehow, though, I suspect that the quote she chose belies her true reason for being so irked.
Somehow, I don’t think it was about pedophiles to begin with. Pedophile had been the convenient boogeyman among the homophobic crowd (I personally know people who think that all gay men are pedophiles and all pedophiles are gay. Yes. Screw evidence.) So why not broaden the horison a bit, you know, and use that boogeyman for ALL SEX! I mean, it’s logical, no?
Call me crazy, but I suspect most pedophiles aren’t “demystifying” sex to lure their victims at all. In fact, they do a whole lot to mystify the proceedings. They certainly aren’t going to be talking up what they do — they usually prey on lonely kids and what they offer as bait is not sexual, just some extra time and attention. Then, after they’ve raped or molested the child, they throw a veil of secrecy over the abuse by threatening that something bad will happen if the child tells, or stating that nobody will believe the child.
Not exactly “demystifying” anything.