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Vox Day, which as everyone I’m sure knows, is latin for bad hair piece…

…made something of a faux pas recently when he smashed a few windows at Godwin’s synagogue, saying that Bush must be wrong about being unable to deport all the nasty jewish mexican immigrants because the nazis managed to “rid themselves of 6 million Jews” in a mere four years.

Now, while I despise bush and everything he stands for, that someone who describes himself as “the Christian Libertarian commentator from WorldNetDaily” should object, not to the hating, nor the racism, nor the downpressing of his fellow man, nor even the needless intrusion by the state into the affairs of people who just want to live a life free of starvation and death, of bush’s immigration schemes and retoric, all of which should have anyone who calls themselves either libertarians or christian (and who use those terms in any sense that make them more than mere meaningless bytes on internet caches), chafing at the bit (and validly so), pisses me off, especially as no, of course not, none of that’s not what’s wrong here is it VD?

No, the problem is that the Bushchev admin is not willing to go as far when dealing with miscellaneous untermenschen as hitler was. Oh Kay.

Now while taking apart the original statement would be fun, and edumacational (in so far as historical references gained from Maus can be considered “edumacational”, get a copy now dammit, it’s good), one of the replies he has to someone criticising his breaking of Godwin’s law so shamefacedly is more interesting, for the irony if nothing else, and he runs over enough of the same ground as he did originally that I can still riff off of the glaring innaccuracies in his original post without any real trouble.

So anyway, VD receives a letter…

Why DID you use that particular example? I’m obviously not implying that you’re a neo-fascist or a racial purist. Just wondering why you didn’t instead recommend the Ottoman Empire, Milosevic, and the US vis a vis the Indians as examples, since all of them seem much closer to what you propose.

Hmm, good question random anonymous guy, pray tell VD, why did you pick hitler in particular?

There were certainly a number of historical examples I could have used, but the one from National Socialist Germany seemed the most apt to me for three reasons. First, the number 12 million has been bandied about lately with regards to illegal aliens and I was reading Robert Wisnich’s book not so long ago, so when I read about Bush declaring how it wouldn’t work to deport so terribly many, the first thing that sprang to mind was something on the order of “for Pete’s sake, the Endlosung took less than four years and that’s half 12 million right there.”

This of course would be a very pertinent fact, if no A) jew who went into the camps had survived and B) if all the camps had been located outside germany, Where exactly did you think dachau and ravensbruck were VD? They were in germany, as were many of the early camps and ghettos, in fact it can be argued that Germany’s expanding borders led to all the camps being located within the mid-war borders of nazi Germany. So let’s check, the total number of deportation out of Germany by the Nazi government = 0, so obviously you picked that example because of the amazing ability that Nazi Germany had when it came to mass deportations. Uh huh.

Yes VD, you not only picked the most vulgar and ugly comparison you could think of (which I get the feel was bascially the point wasn’t it? My troll sense is tingling at any rate), but it’s also one which is factually wrong and also, if you actually had any idea at all about what you were talking about vis a vis the actual historical facts regarding the holocaust and Nazi Germany, leaves you with no room in which you can then word lawyer your way out of it and say “Oh, but I wasn’t suggesting mass murder or anything” as you’ve basically got into a tizzy over the fact that bush wasn’t carting some of the current immigrants off into southern death and labor camps for the purpose of getting “rid” of a large proportion of that 12 million. No doubt bush could put the rest into some of those out of country torture/death camps we currently run, maybe there’s one or two in eastern europe that we could use, or would VD really have us believe that he’s forgotten about Poland?

Second, most people are woefully ignorant of history. You’d be amazed at how many people emailed to inform me that the National Socialists KILLED 6 million Jews. No, really, Mr. History PhD? Given that perhaps one in five readers could identify Milosevic or the Ottoman Empire, much less the Polish postwar expulsion and murder of one million ethnic Germans, it made sense to go with something readers would at least have heard of.

That noise you can hear faintly on the wind is the sound of my laughter after the irony fully overwhelms my body. What amuses me no end on top of that, is that of all the bits of the Nazi era in which a staunch racist and not-particularly-crypto facist might point to as a good example of getting “rid” of the immigrant problem, the era of “joycamps” is not it. The period I’m thinking of as a much better example of how to deal with keeping america pure of the untermenschen flood, would be the prewar period of not-at-all-state-sanctioned terrorism backed up by the Nuremburg Laws that created the large jewish communities of london, new york and the netherlands as all the german jews who could afford to do so fled germany in their droves.

Never mind that the entire comparison falls down due to even the Nazis knowing what the american equivalent to the “jewish problem” was, and that was the african-american population of course, who’s state sanctioned treatment and exploitation as both as labor source and as a means to keep the “po’ white folk” in check (via racism) was the model upon which the nuremburg laws and germany’s own version of the racially segregated state were based off of. The more important, for the purpose of debunking VD at any rate, reason why the african-americans would still be the equivalent to the german jews, even if you ignored or were unaware of the basis of the nuremburg laws and the phrase “seperate but equal”, is because there’s no massive influx of african americans into american, just like there was no huge influx of jews fleeing to nazi germany for the better pay and living conditions, in fact the only surge in the jewish population occured when there was a sudden influx of german armor and aricraft into the neighbouring countries. And somehow, I don’t think invading a country and then using the now entrapped ethnic minorities as a cheap form of slave labor is quite the same situation as what american faces with regards to hispanic immigrants, not least of which is the fact that while the immigrants are kept here for the purpose of exploiting as slave labor, as the jews were in germany and eastern europe, the mexicans are here out of socio-economic screwed overness, rather than due to the combination of guards, watch towers and barbed wire around the work camps. This is America dumbkopf, we’re not like Nazi Germany, we expect Our Others to aid us in their oppression when ever possible via a complex system of socio-economic front end incentives.

That’s why there’s talk about sealing the border, you can’t throw people out of your country if they’re just going to hop straight back in the moment your back is turned, we’re not like nazi germany, the people who make money off of immigrants are hardly going to have left the border so open for so long if an open door policy such as the one nazi germany had until the very late 1930s was liable to cause immigrants to escape to mexico where they couldn’t be exploited and dumped on any more.

Third, I believe that the Third Way politics practiced by the Bush-Clintons and the Blair-Camerons are a modified version of the original Third Way, more infamously known as fascism. I’ve been reading a history entitled FASCISTI by Giordano Bruno Guerri in the last week and the similarities between the development of the historical cult of the nation and the modern cult of multiculturalism are striking.

This bit has nothing to do with much of anything as far as I can tell, other than to show that VD really can read/knows what he’s talking about (which is so childish (and USEnet geek childish no less) and just plain sad that I’m simply going to leave it there unmolested), but I am amazed if he’s actually read any book that examines the ideology and history of german fascism, considering he makes such a declaration only as a way to provide some “truthiness” based justification for some weird comparison between facism and multiculturalism when anyone with half a brain (sans the blackened mind control hallibut of doom obviously) would notice that A) multiculturalism as espoused by the B & C run anglophonic facists is just a rock under which they hide their racism, or doublethink to put it in orwellian terms, and B) that multiculturalism isn’t an actual unified, top down managed, political ideology, so much as a non-specific “I’m not a racist, but” political dodge.

Of course the sneaking suspicions you might be having that VD’s anti-bushchev schtick is just a way for him to play the “balance” character for WingNut Daily so that they can then pretend they’re “fair” and open to alternative ideas, is somewhat bolstered by the way he tacitly supports the far right’s use of the doublethink concept of “multiculturalism” by pretending it actually is some Politically Correct ideology rather than simply far right wing doublethink that is used to hide their natural racist tendencies.

In Summary: VD obviously got told to “get a haircut ya hippy!” by an elderly jewish man once and has harbored a grudge ever since, two thumbs down for historical accuracy, bullshit use of doubethink that had little or nothing to with anything in particular, the much too obvious support for mass murder as well as the complete and routine breaking of the Irony barrier.

Also, doesn’t VD realise that 9/11 changed everything (the sky is green now fuckers) including the neccesity of using the Nazi comparison like a large and heavy blunt object in a domestic dispute? For fuck’s sake, that’s what 9/11 is for you silly head!