Comments on: Jesus: “I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse.”

By: margaret harnish

margaret harnish — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:19:23 +0000

The chrch excommnicates anyone who agrees with abortion, because abortion is murder. I haven’t heard of any threats to excommunicate a murderer, you know, someone who actually killed a breathing human being . Abortion bad; murder is`serios sin, but forgiveable. What bullshit!

By: Anti-choicer fails to grasp concept of not hating oneself at PunkAssBlog.com

Anti-choicer fails to grasp concept of not hating oneself at PunkAssBlog.com — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:36:20 +0000

[...] Dawn has laid bare the utter incapability of the self-absorbed wingnut to even conceive of how you’d develop a rationale for your argument outside of your own personal bullshit. The only person to do it better is Senator/psychopath Tom Coburn from Oklahoma, who I’ve linked to before but want to share again: On the death penalty, he said: “I favor the death penalty for abortionists and other people who take life.” [...]

By: lunartalks

lunartalks — Wed, 17 May 2006 23:59:15 +0000

Homer: don’t have life insurance and have left the RCC for those very same reasons.

Excommunication: heretics (maybe) excommunicate themselves but don’t forget the ‘once a catholic, always a catholic’ argument, especially given a long-anticipated death and deathbed repentence. Can’t do any harm, can it? If it’s all balls (as I think it is) will the worms care? No.

By: Luke Dirtscrawler

Luke Dirtscrawler — Tue, 16 May 2006 17:49:50 +0000

speaking of excommunication….
As a side note to Seamus Daly’s comment on the nature of the particular conflict in NI (though leaving out the British establishment’s contribution does leave you with a, not very useful, 2 legged stool) and strewelpeter story of the pressures exerted from ‘above’ on the rank and file clergy, I am reminded that historically it was standard practice for the Bishops of Ireland to threaten members of revolutionary forces in Ireland with excommunication (as requested by the British colonial ruling elite).

By: darius

darius — Tue, 16 May 2006 12:07:48 +0000

“What about life insurance?”

What about it? Last time I checked, I didn’t have to be dead to find out if life insurance works. Someone whose policy benefits me does.

By: strewelpeter

strewelpeter — Tue, 16 May 2006 12:01:00 +0000

The excommunication thing is complicated…apparently you do just do it to yourself, they just carry on with you as a member of the club. There is some obscure ritual where you get the king of excommunication that gallileo got (if you piss them off enough) but mere mortals like me cannot get it. I have been trying for years, every time I get into a head 2 head with a catholic priest I beg him to excommunicate me but there is always some reason why I am not heretic enough to go on the list. They are of course always real condecending about how I’m going to come back into the fold …”on my deathbed if not before” and they;ll be praying for me.
By the way thew RCC in Ireland who have been famous in their slowness to act in the case of the many peadophiles they have harboured in their ranks over the years have moved with great speed to discipline some priests who had the temerity to share some hocus pocus ceremony with their neighbours from the protestant church. The priests who were widely lauded by their congergations for trying the two warring communities together capitulated in the face oof threats of being defrocked. I wonder if they might have been able to get excommunicated

heres a link to a news headlin on the story…I’m sure that there is much more detailed coverage somewhere but frankly who’s bothered
http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0515/religion.html

By: Seamus Daly

Seamus Daly — Mon, 15 May 2006 21:21:15 +0000

Excellent article; one complaint. I think it’s unwise to use Ireland, Northern as an offhand example of warring factions within Christianity as the conflict there had less to do with actual religious disagreements and more to do with warring political factions: those of Republicanism (of the Irish Republic)and Loyalism (to the Crown). It’s important to recognise that religion is used in such cases as a convenient excuse for such un-beatitudinal behaviour, rather than the cause of it. Still, political thuggery is no different from racketeering thuggery is no different from divine Thuggery. I’m rambling, however, and I’m sure you take my point. Excellent piece.

By: Non credo quia absurdum est!

Non credo quia absurdum est! — Mon, 15 May 2006 20:06:13 +0000

“Save for this: The Catholic Church doesn’t excommunicate anyone. It simply announces that a heretic has excommunicated himself. That’s all.”

Did anyone else get an image of Nelson Muntz bullying a heretic, after reading this hooey?: “Stop excommunicating yourself!” [Whap!] “Stop excommunicating yourself!” [Whap, whap!]

By: Badger3k

Badger3k — Mon, 15 May 2006 19:20:20 +0000

I like this line from Compass: “Save for this: The Catholic Church doesn’t excommunicate anyone. It simply announces that a heretic has excommunicated himself. That’s all.”

Sure sounds like the old “they were asking for it” line about rape victims. To go along with the mafia theme, it’s not the fault of the mob when the shopkeeper’s store is trashed – they just removed themselves from the mob’s protection, that’s all. It’s all about blaming the victim while shielding the perpetrator (re – lawyers for the Church going after those making sexual abuse cases against priests).

By: Homer

Homer — Mon, 15 May 2006 17:40:42 +0000

Mafia comparisons aside, what if someone sold you a product and said you had to wait until after you were dead to find out whether or not it worked. Would you buy it? No.

What about life insurance?